07:09:17 Hendikins: heh, and yeah, Florence tends to come up with interesting remarks 07:10:30 tomman: is it gone now or is it some geoip-specific thing? I'm getting in, and I don't see any override set for debian.net 07:10:57 (UA is set to SeaMonkey only) 07:12:45 therube: ... it's also in og:image, what. 07:13:03 whatever is going on is affecting the algorithmic social media metadata 07:16:57 therube: JSON in the source (bangs head against desk) lists *two* images, and the pink svg is one of them https://addons.mozilla.org/user-media/version-previews/full/3016/3016847.png?modified=1622842324 and https://addons.mozilla.org/user-media/version-previews/full/3016/3016849.svg?modified=1622842325 07:17:42 i.e. it's possibly not just a placeholder, but an image that was actually associated to this theme? could it be that what you see in Firefox is a multi-image gallery that merely loaded properly? let me see... 07:20:48 no! Fx 115 merely shows the non-svg one. 07:20:55 I need way more caffeine to digest this 13:51:18 njsg: good catch! Mine is set as "Seamonkey, announce FF compat" 13:51:24 and THAT gets served... poison 13:51:35 Setting it to SM-only lets the site load 13:51:38 iiiiiinteresting.... 14:11:09 diff is +Firefox/140.0 19:41:51 having trouble with newegg emails in mail.yahoo.com, again, & hard refresh is not loading them this time 19:41:55 bye 19:44:40 why do ppl use yahoo, hotmail, M$, gmail... I wonder since 1998 19:45:53 I mean ppl with some computer knowledge 19:47:16 as 3rd backup, OK 19:49:07 the only thing I ever had to change was in the 2000s, POP3 to POP3s 19:52:17 for privacy reasons I never used IMAP 19:52:59 deliver, delete, forget 19:53:25 none of my ISPs business 20:31:07 d|ver: I use Googlemail, lookOut and a account I pay for 20:31:21 think on it as "don't keep all your eggs on the same basket" 20:31:55 Especially when I've been through episodes in my life that forbid me from paying for, say, email :/ 20:32:25 the key is: "use all of them, they only have a portion of the keys to your life anyway" 20:32:30 my 8$/mo webserver comes with 1000 e-mail addresses 20:32:52 mine does too, but in my country, $8/mo is... a lot of money, relative to our meager income 20:33:19 there are 2.99 accounts too 20:34:08 and often your DSL/Cable/Fiber ISP has one free e-mail (pop/imap) 20:36:21 and I still can use the backend webmailer 20:58:25 d|ver: things do not work like that in my country, I'm afraid 20:58:35 (having severe restrictions to accessing foreign currency is one) 21:01:36 ok 21:01:41 :/ 21:02:00 Our ISPs used to do email like 1-2 decades ago, but not anymore 21:02:53 I lost my ISP-issued mail (an account I've had for over a decade!) sometime in 2018, when they killed their mail service without telling anyone 21:03:06 They also used to do webhosting, but, like, 5MB :D 21:05:23 https://all-inkl.com/en/webhosting/test-account/ 21:05:40 has country VE 21:08:07 I already pay for a local hosting provider here, in local currency 21:08:12 it's about ~$8/mo 21:08:25 but... between 2019 and 2023 I had it very dire 22:52:40 d|ver: I think that before gmail appeared in the scene, that it wasn't that common to have more decent-ish service for free, so either you had something usable from your ISP or... - but I might well not have the big picture from back then 22:54:58 Telepac/Meo/SAPO probably had it different as an ISP, as they at one point deployed dovecot, and I think PT might even have paid for some development. And I mention this because this year SAPO announced they'd be driving their free webmail into the ground or the dark ages of no POP/IMAP... granted, that's not the same as an ISP account, but it does signal something. 22:55:13 to be fair, they haven't enforced that threat yet. IMAP still works. 22:57:15 by decent-ish I mean a bit more storage, less attachment limits (but I think this is not the case anymore, they now have some ridiculously small limit?), and IMAP, POP, SMTP. 22:58:25 funny thing, I have an AOL account in M&N, over IMAP. That was used in M&N back when the account was created... but that M&N account was using Netscape's proprietary support for AOL's mail :-)