so yeah tomman hi.. ionos is pretty nice so far

like the real deal

meanwhile bluehost still wants my ssh password even tho i said they could just override it

like a ritual

consent

i am not a fan

meanwhile I'm trying some Python sorcery to bypass Ad-Shield anti-adblocking toxins without resorting to installing client-side adblockers

this is war, and by $DEITY I'm gonna fight it!

besides they are just gonna say iptables was misconfigured and they fixed it and i bet it is busted internally after that

tomman: Good for you!

i mean that

...and that didn't worked. Turns out the Ad-Shield suckas do not really like being fooled with fake/empty scripts

so whoever suggested that idea of blackholing their domains into a custom server returning empty content... nope, that won't work anymore

BUT!

I did found a userscript that MOSTLY works on SM/Greasemonkey

it still redirects you to error-report.com at the very end because the userscript tries to defuse the confirm() trap by throwing an Error()... but Ad-Shield is too clever now for that, and it catches the error forcing a redirect :/

And... you cannot override window.location anymore, because the advertising/malware industry abused that

at least I can just hit back and read the page undisturbed

so close!

i guess i should get some more rest .. i have a big day ahead of me.. ugh..

khanlawman: why do they even want "the ssn password", did they literally ask for that?

it may be on their infra and so on, but... wouldn't the state of the art be to ask to add their public key temporarily?

What's going on?? I just had three cycles of ....

Quote

End of netsplit.

End of net reconnect.

End Quote

cycling through ... then logged back in here.

Is that something wrong at my end?? With the irc chn?? Something else??

What's a "netsplit"??

O.K., after checking the logbot I don't see any listings for the "netsplit"/"net reconnect" entrise .... I guess they were something on MY side!

same here. Netsplits now seem to occur frequently here.

They do not show up in the logbot

Large enough netsplits tend to hang cZ, but yeah, they're getting frequent lately

pale moon's performance has went to shit in the past few releases? Are they sabotaging again? Cause it is doing that classic stutter shit with nothing but webmin open..

you know common glitch when you fuck up the code in a mozilla application

been happening off and on for decades everywhere

tomman: what is it the sheer flood of parts and joins?

I haven't pinpointed the exact number, but anything over "a couple dozen" will trigger the "script not responding" warning (and causing me to timeout)

that is not surprising

there are inefficiencies everywhere new mozilla changes are introduced

and chatzilla has NEVER been actually good

it was just handy in a suite setup

it would make MORE sense to do a new UX with new features and scripting and rebase on chatcore

let me put it another way regarding chatzilla

IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM

so do i :)

but here we are~

Maniel: a netsplit is when the connection between IRC servers is somehow severed. You may not see all users, and some protections may apply to avoid giving operator access to channels which existed before the netsplit started

in networks with "services", this also means that the services are likely on one side of the netsplit, so you may be unable to use NickServ, ChanServ, &c

netsplit indications are not shown at all in logbot probably because it shows only messages, so I guess it doesn't even get to the point where there's something it could show

these days some IRC networks are small enough that there is just a single server or there's at least not a big network, but the protocol is distributed, and larger networks, where libera.chat is included, have servers over the globe

this for network route issues, when a netsplit is an intentional severance, one half of it may get named after the server which was left on the other half (*Eris-Free* network) :-P

tomman: when you get the not responding message, do you get a pointer to the source code?

Hi from netcat!!1

wb d|vzilla \o/

d|ver: a strange game, the only winning move is to PONG

that one over netcat is probably more challenging :-P

an Auto-IT script that send PONG keystrokes every 15 secs ;)

"it's the real Windows 7 Explorer, but running on top of 10"

yeah

this isn't new

in concept

i can run nt4 explorer on win2k

nathan at toastytech had his 98lite which used 95's non-IE explorer on 98

I want to run NT 5.0 or 5.1 explorer on 7, also replace the new common dialogs with the older ones. any tool for that? :-)

cool they are still a-doing it tho tomman

err d|ver

(and while the Windows NT 5.1 setup qualfiies as a tool, please don't suggest that, also by 7 I actually mean NT 6.1, I won't be using that on 7 most of the time...

njsg: it has been done but post-IE explorer before vista was a bitch and that was the point microsoft knew people did this

but I want 64bit

why would you want earlier IE based explorer?

it fuckin sucks

it always did

d|ver: how old are you?

1971

then you should remember how fucked ie integration was

Program Manager and File Manager that's the ticket!

2000 was peak windows... but I need 64bit

windows 2000 was the most visually consistant and polished version of windows ever released

since 3x

including nt 3x

Windows 7 was closest to matching that out of the box perfection but vista era windows is NOT visually consistant

it had at least three UX eras running

aero, xp era, and remements from chicago

I happily quit my job as PC tech/admin in 2007, exactly before Vista came out

plus there were only two ACTUAL issues with vista on release.. drivers not being ready.. and vista used a less stable version of the xp era memory manager .. windows 7's was redesigned.. vista sp1 stablized it and driver support came.. it just needed another year

worked 2 years in greece and since then only software dev :)

the third one of course wa sthe vista capable program where they shoved vista basic onto xp machines

but we don't talk about that

LOL

NT 6.1 already had a lot of messing up in the UI

aside from paint and wordpad getting the ribbon ui.. it was identical to vista except asthetics were slightly altered from bold blue and green with some yeller to just pale blue

notably explorer completely abandoning more consistent toolbars and trying to achieve some sort of integrated design for visual effects, as well as icons for some reason lacking a "not too big nor too small" size in some settings, and explorer-like windows for a lot of stuff that used to be in control panel applets

that all was started long before vista happened

we're talking neptune activity centers here

all stemming from that

colliding with the last deaththrows of IE integration

that is how you got explorerized what mozilla and we call in-content shit

and then mozilla copied it and reenforced it

instead of focusing on XUL

and then google got in the fray and went to the nth degree in the worst way possible

njsg: this is STILL a mozilla failure

to innovate instead of copy and bastardize

which was the style at the time

the evil microsoft and later apple and google have done has been sanctified and justfied by Mozilla this whole time.

my oldest website still running (2006) castelberg.net

and now Mozilla's 2010s style shit is microsoft's ONLY strat these days

Microsoft copied mozilla copying microsoft

it works from the same css file in all browsers at that time ;)

any wonder why windows 11 and copilot are utter trash?

IE was such a PITA

which one?

which era of internet explorer?

all

there are 3

from 3-11

1-3 4-6 and 7-11

4-6 did the most damage

and 11 lead to edgehtml which failed and lead to more chrome

in the 7-11 era I switched from my own CMS to Wordpress

you can't blame an evil organization like microsoft for being evil.. you can blame regulators and such and you can blame Mozilla.. because Mozilla was the fucking key and they sold us all out long ago..

The Mozilla Organization existed to prevent or provide an alternative to THIS VERY FUCKIN SERIES OF OUTCOMES and they in 2009 just.. gave up but strung us all along for more years with false hope.. And here we are years later and no one seems to really care.. idgi

the most important question out of all this d|ver is why the FUCK would you want explorer when you could build a xul file manager?

i mean you can't with seamonkey's codebase or any late model xul codebase not without resolving fundmental performance bottlenecks in the core codebase and treat it as it was originally intended..

including UXP which is not fit for purpose deff after customelements but was iffy before then.. we had refined and gained a lot of performance before that nonsense landed

this is proven by testing with the fireftp extension

which is the closest one has to a functioning filemanager so much so they even at one point had a demo that with some more pieces COULD BE A FILEMANAGER but like with netsplits hogging shit cause its a fuckin either rdf datastore in memory or just a js array holding data it bogs down

dunno speed is all that counts for me

I open a 1500 mp3 folder in less than a sec.

in win 11 it takes a few secs... suxxx

unfortently in my intermittent testing over the past four years when i wasn't loopfailing no late model xul codebase can really be used for much more than the default mozilla purposes it primarily serves.. i'd likely have to go back to XPFE if i want to rearchitech XUL into a general purpose application toolkit again.. earlier toolkit would work too but the newer codepaths are not as robust as xpfe codepaths with more modern compilers

speaking of i need to see if i can get xpfe to build on anything newer than gcc12

a computer MUST be faster than I can operate it...

at least the explorer.. forget websites ;)

except my own: modtu.be

nifty

i am sure you've seen my stuff in various conditions from working to diaster before

"VPNs serve as critical privacy and security tools for users across all ages," said Svea Windwehr, policy manager at Mozilla.

aha! critical security tool O_o

for their financial security you see

try mozilla vpn today!

d|ver:

Mozilla.. paid products.. Mozilla.. paid products.. Mozilla.. paid products..

Error -1

FE Down

Tau Omicron Beta Iota Nu

.. anyway

in my days we used VPNs to connect 2 LANs

the only security feature is the encryption

hamachi

wich is already 99.5%

where vps basically create a network between friends

not just stealing online content

saw this yesterday, maybe worth a look: A Web Revival: the Internet didn't die, you're just not on it *** youtube.com/watch?v=tkUgOT22F5s

i hate how he describes the world wide web and this indieweb shit.. we're not supposed to have teired web.. it is supposed to be one world wide web of sites

this is why I am not interested in neich and indie communities and initiatives.. its just asking to be dismissed. I get dismissed offering industry level quality i won't half ass some fartpage website and write a fanfic about it as a vlog..

heh.. his chat eats so much CPU it hangs all YT and audio streams :)

but will look around the links...

better than nobody doing nothing at all

no it isn't

because that should simply be the standard we should still be following not relegated to undiscoverable corners of what remains of the internet

RUN DMC *** It's like that, and that's the way it is...

*shrugs*

0518|16:01:29 < d|ver> a computer MUST be faster than I can operate it... <- oh boy, this brings me memories from when GTK+2 introduced the new file picker...

sniff all the files!

I'd argue we need linked websites and also directories

maybe the latter will make a comeback now that search engines have started, uh, promoting even more of what they had been doing recently

You joked about Windows' file download and transfer dialog estimates? Well, that ain't nothing compared to search engines these days :-P

it's all up to the routing gods

okay i wanna know why thereisonlyxul.org is suddenly the only domain without existing records atm

... i swear bluehost uses some sort of AI router and has been filtering specific traffic

including the most used domain atm

thereisonlyxul.org so basically yeah i consider this an attack not just on my good faith but basic standards of service and care

fucking.. ridiculous

ANYONE ELSE and this shit would be unbelieveable.. but here it is..

all that work...

and like 40 dollars

KhanLamwan: I get 216.250.119.136

yeah the nameserver change must have propigated

but they can't fuckin sell VPSes the packetshape it to death

what's the point then

to get you to buy managed service.. because this is all designed in a way to confuse and make it look like it is just my problem

packet shaping was intended to elict that response

i remember it well

the older xr cross reference is resolving again

so just use the old domain for now when it switches to the new server the redirect will handle it.. also why i always just use 302 redirects .. don't get cached

uncaching a 301 is painful without clearing everything

next.. nginx .. also irc