16:09:32 <tomman> Current status of the Clownflare blockade: the inspector no longer triggers a >5-minute coal burning hang... in fact it simply does nothing
16:09:55 <tomman> sometimes no page render at all, while sometimes you get the "Just a moment..." placeholder and a never-ending spinner
16:10:06 <tomman> inspecting the spinner does nothing. SOmetimes the page reloads on its own
16:10:50 <tomman> BigInt remains a requirement now set in stone, according to the error console
16:11:39 <tomman> the developer outreach program has been stalled harder than a 737 Max after someone hit the fuel cutoff switches on it, maybe because Clownflare switched that by Claude AI written crap :P
16:11:59 <tomman> ...but then CF is too busy rewriting itself with AI, sometimes backfiring spectacularly
16:12:01 <tomman> End of report~
16:15:01 <nsITobin> I'm done.
16:17:13 <nsITobin> I'm over it
16:17:15 <nsITobin> all of it
16:18:00 <nsITobin> the shitty linux people the nazis fucks i gave all my hardwork to and the fact no one can give two shits about anything that doesn't involve the same stroke off from 2008
16:18:15 <nsITobin> I'm done frg_Away IanN_Away
16:19:47 <IanN_Away> hi nsITobin
16:20:32 <nsITobin> I have asked for a god damned componitized install and splash screen for over 15 years IanN_Away
16:20:34 <nsITobin> where is it
16:20:59 <nsITobin> why is ewong not bothering to say a god damned word after weeks
16:21:26 <nsITobin> and why is everything I suggest that has a halfway decent chance of working not embraced when none of you virtually have to do shit but allow it
16:21:43 <njsg> re: ewong, are you sure he did get what you wrote him?
16:21:59 <njsg> Google and MICROS~1 have been quite creative at finding creative ways to screw up e-mail delivery
16:22:42 <nsITobin> no email from ewong anywhere
16:23:02 <nsITobin> i expected to basically be pinged if someone sent an email cause I HATE FUCKING EMAIL
16:23:07 <nsITobin> always have
16:23:10 <nsITobin> can't stand it
16:23:13 <nsITobin> want mailnews dead
16:23:22 <nsITobin> wanted it dead for over 15 years
16:23:27 <nsITobin> out of my fucking sight
16:23:40 * njsg moves the space command codes out of reach
16:23:51 * njsg does like Mail&News
16:23:56 <nsITobin> i HATED doing interlink and doing it for shitty people.. but i can't even do work for shitty people anymore so whatever
16:24:29 <nsITobin> but let me guess what is in the email
16:24:33 <nsITobin> nop sorry can't help
16:25:41 <nsITobin> and you know what
16:25:43 <nsITobin> i HATE rust
16:25:58 <nsITobin> i think this project should be ENDED if you can't remove rust from it
16:26:27 <njsg> the idea is to do what's possible to keep it alive, and that, at the moment, involves coexisting with rust.
16:26:44 <nsITobin> that is a fucking false statement and I literally proved it false
16:26:52 <nsITobin> you are inferior to the efforts of shitty nazis
16:26:58 <nsITobin> and my work for them
16:27:06 <nsITobin> because you guys wouldn't LET me do it here
16:27:13 <nsITobin> for fifteen fuckinbg years
16:27:51 <nsITobin> you could have cental somewhat working but no one would let it happen WHEN i wanted and was geared to do it
16:28:11 <nsITobin> i HATED doing it but i wanted to give you guys the future you are shitting up a once great codebase to get to
16:28:47 <nsITobin> and that is whyh without immediate support and effort to get on MY page in that shit that only I am seeming able to do without it takeing YEARS of worthless interum patching
16:28:56 <nsITobin> i didn't bother
16:30:16 <nsITobin> still won't let me reinstate MOZ_MAILNEWS which was the ORIGINAL design of the suite after 15 years and doing it three times once as borealis
16:30:28 <nsITobin> so i can RUN SEAMONKEY and just have the navigator
16:30:32 <nsITobin> which is ALL i ever cared about
16:30:55 <nsITobin> if seamonkey 1 didn't have xpfe compoitized install I'd have never used it and never even would have been here
16:31:14 <nsITobin> my entire purpose here is based on YOU.. not Mozilla taking away features and not letting me put some of them back
16:31:22 <nsITobin> originally
16:31:46 <nsITobin> IanN_Away: Neil specifically but you're ALL to blame
16:36:33 <IanN_Away> nsITobin: I wish I had more time to look at all this, I'm just too busy with non-SM stuff at the moment
16:36:48 <nsITobin> then maybe you should step down
16:37:30 <nsITobin> or give the project to someone esle who can at least make a run for users and dveelopment and not broken obsolete mozilla policy designed to undercut this very project imposed from without and still in effect for god knows what reason
16:37:35 <IanN_Away> nsITobin: I do realise you have time to look at it, I will see if I can nudge ewong_
16:38:46 <nsITobin> what good is an add-ons site when seamonkey has no users to speak of and a compramised mozilla extension system and an always influx refactor storm if core technology
16:39:05 <nsITobin> i'll do it of course but it won't matter if the app continues to suck like it is 2014
16:40:12 <nsITobin> the time to prod ewong_ was three years ago before i remembered how much nothing actually is involved in the seamonkey project
16:41:15 <nsITobin> and when I still had three years of unlimited time where i couldn't accomplish anything because no one cared enough
16:42:48 <nsITobin> in three years Pale Moon was completely independant and had infrastructure and then i was forced out the first time
16:42:56 <nsITobin> what is the netresult here
16:43:02 <nsITobin> a few patches and wasted effort?
16:43:31 <njsg> something that arose from recent posts in a mailing list is that a site showing SeaMonkey extensions might be something that's needed
16:44:21 <njsg> still have to reply to stress that the TB extension site won't show anything not because there is nothing, but because the site chose to do so. (Or does it still show extensions?)
16:44:51 <nsITobin> for no other reason would I try and work with Mozilla proper and subsiquently make enemies of the core devs but to TRY and secure something for you guys.. did that .. didn't secure shit.. no action sense.. that was a year ago
16:46:42 <nsITobin> firefox devs getting on my case for mentioning xul.. thunderburd fucks i was gonna help kept changing the rules mid-stream on me.. and emilio of all people tried to lock me in a private room on matrix and deprogram me and i told him i hope he gets shot for his bullshit on stylo
16:48:03 <nsITobin> i'd already be klined from this network and not giving a shit but for seamonkey
16:48:26 <nsITobin> JWZ has already shattered the illusions around his liberal skank ass
16:49:02 <nsITobin> if netscape isn't a thing I can value anymore what fuckin hope does this project have despite TRYING for a decade and a half
16:49:20 <nsITobin> even providing a visual aid
16:49:25 <nsITobin> doesn't matter
16:49:37 <nsITobin> seamonkey doesn't matter in the global landscape
16:49:39 <nsITobin> chrome does tho
16:49:48 <nsITobin> rust matters
16:50:34 <nsITobin> but sure let's just go with you mozilla trained multidecade people are somehow less capable than a asshole sperg and a nazi furfag
16:50:39 <nsITobin> that makes sense
16:50:41 <nsITobin> ... fuck sakes
16:53:56 <nsITobin> and unless you ALL can see that objective reality for what it is.. I really don't have more to say about it.
16:54:39 <nsITobin> and GIVEN 75% either came from here or inspired by here.. THAT MAKES IT EVEN WORSE
16:58:10 <nsITobin> I'm restarting Borealis.
16:58:32 <nsITobin> I've had it.. I have to reastart Borealis to stand in opposition to the status quo
16:58:40 <nsITobin> you can ban me if you want..
17:02:32 <nsITobin> No.. I am REBOOTING Borealis as SeaMonkey the way it SHOULD HAVE BEEN.. suite or standalone.. mailnews and composer too use communicator glue to make it work.. nothing outlandish like some of my other ideas.
17:02:57 <nsITobin> I will show you.. pointlessly what I think should be.
17:04:08 <nsITobin> and unlike previous efforts of the past three years.. if you can't care.. then at least I have what I made.. unlike the virtual NOTHING i am getting right now .. begging to work.. for free.. what fucked up reality is this