01:19:21 Do you guys support jxl and avif? 01:21:17 no, and no 01:21:30 also I thought Google had killed JPEG-XL by decree 01:21:49 JXL has been... polemical, to say it the least 01:21:58 Apparently 01:22:22 and yeah, sadly we don't have AVIF yet - no real reason to use it either, but unfortunately i've found a couple blogs using it for no good reason at all 01:22:38 I was thinking of my picture app on my website. I know it does not support the big jp2 I think it was called but.... 01:22:39 (AVIF is patent encumbered, since it's a descendant of HEVC, ick) 01:22:47 Maybe it supports the other 2 01:23:02 Avif it said to be open like jxl 01:23:24 not really 01:23:35 the format itself is "open" as specs are available publicly 01:24:03 but it uses HEVC for compression, which is patent emcumbered (it's a MPEG codec, and dealing with the MPEG-LA licensing cartel is no fun) 01:24:11 and patents will not expire for a couple decades or so 01:24:26 wait 01:24:30 disregard that I suck dongs 01:24:32 that's HEIC! 01:24:41 AVIF is AV1, D'OH~! 01:25:10 Yeah, that makes it clean, alas, we don't support it yet... and it is not a priority 01:25:18 I have like +80.000 pictures and 25% would be a decent amount of storage and less stream. 01:25:26 (I myself have zero use case for it - JPEG and PNG serve me well and everything renders those) 01:25:29 Yes avif is AV1 01:25:38 eh, we end users no longer use dialup 01:25:48 I don't care what you use or not. 01:25:50 I know that server operators are charged by the byte 01:26:01 but that's not really a good reason to break compatiblity 01:26:03 but then that's me 01:26:15 reminds me when JWZ converted all his animated GIFs to MP4s 01:26:47 sure, he saved a TON of bandwidth, but also made my browsing experience miserable (As he LOVES animated gifs and MP4s take a ton of resources when you embed a dozen of them on a single page) 01:27:08 Well.... 25% is a lot of data both storage and to stream and mobiles still pay for data. 01:27:53 If your images are too heavy, consider checking why they are too heavy before relying on new data compression algorithms 01:27:54 Anyway I will have to check if my picture app for web support the formats. 01:28:08 I have 80.000 pictures!!!! 01:28:12 for example a common error is to embed a 40Mpix image when a 768p is sufficient 01:28:18 Sigh this guy. 01:28:29 hey, I'm a software engineer too 01:28:37 I've been at both sides of this fence 01:29:05 and throwing tech at every problem is not always the best solution 01:29:27 Anyway, time to recharge my batteries~~~ 03:10:44 Hmmm 03:11:43 JXL > AVIF > JPG well..... 03:11:51 Not totally sure about..... 03:12:18 JXL and AVIF I have seen where it seems AVIF looks better. 03:12:47 And AVIF is this new video Tech as well AV1 03:12:59 Trying to see what is around. 03:13:28 Seems you can actually do really good on old JPG if you use the right compressor. 03:13:40 But I will have to test it. 03:13:49 At the moment I have 80.000 PNG files. 03:53:39 Overall it seems AVIF is the better supported. JXL is sadly not supported much. 03:54:03 But they are close so.... At least not to bad. 03:55:25 Seems like Google was dishonest when they promoted webp compared to jpg 03:56:22 But overall the AVIF or JXL is clearly the better leap. 03:56:55 But apparently with the right tools you should be able to get some really good jpg files as well.