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JesusGod-Pope666Do you guys support jxl and avif?
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tommanno, and no
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tommanalso I thought Google had killed JPEG-XL by decree
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tommanJXL has been... polemical, to say it the least
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JesusGod-Pope666Apparently
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tommanand yeah, sadly we don't have AVIF yet - no real reason to use it either, but unfortunately i've found a couple blogs using it for no good reason at all
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JesusGod-Pope666I was thinking of my picture app on my website. I know it does not support the big jp2 I think it was called but....
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tomman(AVIF is patent encumbered, since it's a descendant of HEVC, ick)
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JesusGod-Pope666Maybe it supports the other 2
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JesusGod-Pope666Avif it said to be open like jxl
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tommannot really
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tommanthe format itself is "open" as specs are available publicly
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tommanbut it uses HEVC for compression, which is patent emcumbered (it's a MPEG codec, and dealing with the MPEG-LA licensing cartel is no fun)
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tommanand patents will not expire for a couple decades or so
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tommanwait
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tommandisregard that I suck dongs
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tommanthat's HEIC!
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tommanAVIF is AV1, D'OH~!
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tommanYeah, that makes it clean, alas, we don't support it yet... and it is not a priority
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JesusGod-Pope666I have like +80.000 pictures and 25% would be a decent amount of storage and less stream.
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tomman(I myself have zero use case for it - JPEG and PNG serve me well and everything renders those)
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JesusGod-Pope666Yes avif is AV1
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tommaneh, we end users no longer use dialup
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JesusGod-Pope666I don't care what you use or not.
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tommanI know that server operators are charged by the byte
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tommanbut that's not really a good reason to break compatiblity
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tommanbut then that's me
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tommanreminds me when JWZ converted all his animated GIFs to MP4s
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tommansure, he saved a TON of bandwidth, but also made my browsing experience miserable (As he LOVES animated gifs and MP4s take a ton of resources when you embed a dozen of them on a single page)
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JesusGod-Pope666Well.... 25% is a lot of data both storage and to stream and mobiles still pay for data.
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tommanIf your images are too heavy, consider checking why they are too heavy before relying on new data compression algorithms
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JesusGod-Pope666Anyway I will have to check if my picture app for web support the formats.
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JesusGod-Pope666I have 80.000 pictures!!!!
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tommanfor example a common error is to embed a 40Mpix image when a 768p is sufficient
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JesusGod-Pope666Sigh this guy.
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tommanhey, I'm a software engineer too
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tommanI've been at both sides of this fence
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tommanand throwing tech at every problem is not always the best solution
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tommanAnyway, time to recharge my batteries~~~
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JesusGod-Pope666Hmmm
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JesusGod-Pope666JXL > AVIF > JPG well.....
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JesusGod-Pope666Not totally sure about.....
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JesusGod-Pope666JXL and AVIF I have seen where it seems AVIF looks better.
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JesusGod-Pope666And AVIF is this new video Tech as well AV1
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JesusGod-Pope666Trying to see what is around.
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JesusGod-Pope666Seems you can actually do really good on old JPG if you use the right compressor.
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JesusGod-Pope666But I will have to test it.
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JesusGod-Pope666At the moment I have 80.000 PNG files.
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JesusGod-Pope666Overall it seems AVIF is the better supported. JXL is sadly not supported much.
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JesusGod-Pope666But they are close so.... At least not to bad.
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JesusGod-Pope666Seems like Google was dishonest when they promoted webp compared to jpg
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JesusGod-Pope666But overall the AVIF or JXL is clearly the better leap.
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JesusGod-Pope666But apparently with the right tools you should be able to get some really good jpg files as well.
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