07:12:59 <njsg> directly replacing /bin/init with /bin/bash is probably not a good idea unless /bin/bash is statically-linked. of course I don't expect something like bash4->bash5 to happen anytime soon, but it's something to keep in mind
07:13:52 <njsg> (might be moot if what the system ends up using is the same bash, of course)
15:39:08 <nsITobin> https://github.com/microsoft/winfile#announcement-repository-to-be-archived-on-march-1-2025
15:39:13 <nsITobin> WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK
15:39:29 <nsITobin> They don't have the resources.. to do .. File Manager
15:40:31 <nsITobin> "we simply do not have the expertise or resources within the organization to continue to maintain this project."
15:41:03 <nsITobin> so microsoft no longer has the expertise to develop the most basic windows program that is still useful
15:41:26 <nsITobin> microsoft no longer has the expertise to actually write win32 apps
15:42:59 <nsITobin> ACTUALLY this could spell out that win32 as we have known it is finally gonna be fundamentally busted and not even the most primitive functions will work properly anymore
16:04:04 <tomman> people actually used that?!
16:04:07 <tomman> color me shocked
16:04:23 <nsITobin> it actually works better in some circumstances vs explorer
16:04:43 <tomman> also, technically it's *checks license* FOSS, so I guess a zillion forks will keep it alive somehow
16:04:57 <tomman> now MS please opensource Program Manager :P
16:05:11 <tomman> > While you may continue to work on your own private fork, remember that use of archived repositories are more risky from a security standpoint and caution should be taken.
16:05:20 <tomman> oh yeah, here comes the Sekuritah FUD™
16:08:11 <nsITobin> tomman: i have the program manager source code somewhere.. someone needs to cleanroom it
17:16:26 <nsITobin> fuckin gitlab is too MOOOODDDDEEERRRRNNN to import from a dumbhttp git directory
17:16:27 <nsITobin> ugh
17:16:52 <tomman> Git is no longer for dinosaurs, it seems
17:17:26 <nsITobin> gitlab also is too MODERN to use ports
17:17:59 <nsITobin> so i have to have my gogs repo be dumbhttp hosted.. imported to codeburg then maybe gitlab will import it
17:18:13 <nsITobin> it's one of my old trees so too large to just.. push
17:19:00 <nsITobin> cause if gogs is exposed to the web someone comes along and crashes it and for some reason this sophisticated system daemon can't figure out to restart it
17:20:17 <nsITobin> and remember this is ALL BECAUSE SOMEONE didn't want me to start an x11 fork by recruiting anti-waylandists on some gist...
17:20:19 <nsITobin> tomman:
17:22:38 <nsITobin> i dunno if other people have these problems and shit.. but I do know most other people have normal life to deal with as well.. whatever that means in today's world..
17:23:32 <tomman> at least it's not a $60K problem: https://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/log/2025/04/15.html
17:23:58 <tomman> guys, if you ever consider quitting web browser dev, NEVER go and open a place to sell booze
17:24:43 <nsITobin> i am starting to think our imperious leader cares more about his freakie liberal nightclub than those whom his software shaped and the world at large..
17:25:21 <tomman> at least he has his stainless steel toilets working again
17:25:35 <nsITobin> I think it's time to occupy dnalounge and get JWZ to lead us to victory
17:25:55 <nsITobin> if he wants to use the dnalounge as a war room all the better
17:26:00 <nsITobin> think he will go for it?
17:26:01 <nsITobin> lol
17:26:35 <tomman> Windows PCs are not welcome at the DNA, so...
17:26:50 <nsITobin> i use linux
17:26:54 <nsITobin> ... mostly
17:27:30 <nsITobin> I want to ask him why the bouncing cows are lit with flesh colored light..
17:27:46 <nsITobin> first and foremost then on to the world collapse and such
17:28:06 <nsITobin> priorities.. shitters, cows, the world.
17:28:07 <tomman> Or you can get a Mastodon account and ask him :)
17:28:10 <nsITobin> seems netscape to me
17:28:16 <tomman> if he is not pissed off as usual, he may even reply
17:28:28 <tomman> just NEVER try to help him when a "Dear Lazyweb" toot comes up