15:28:21 can't load, https://everything.updatestar.com/ - secure connection failed 15:28:22 - Win7, SM, FF 115 ESR, PM 36.0 15:28:24 i'm told it does work in Win11, FF 137 & MS Edge 15:28:25 might it be a Win7 issue ? 16:28:38 therube loads here 16:28:52 OS ? 16:29:06 Server 2008 R2 but can try 7. 16:29:40 eh, guess i'll try SM on a Win10... 16:31:29 https://ibb.co/3yjVqH89 16:31:39 7 Ultimate 16:33:35 Needed to put in this fixit last month or defender wouldn't pick updates any longer but doubt it will affect SeaMonkey TLS Connections: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-to-enable-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-as-default-secure-protocols-in-winhttp-in-windows-c4bd73d2-31d7-761e-0178-11268bb10392 16:41:46 Oh was pro not Ultimate :) 16:48:55 i do not have that KB, nor do i use any anitvirus. 16:49:51 Just for network connections initiated by Windows stuff 17:06:45 therube, works on pm 33.6.1 on win10 21:50:44 wow, WineHQ switched antibot protection from Clownflare (which hates niche web browsers) to.. Anubis!? 21:50:47 well, at least Anubis is browser friendly... I still do not like being forced to burn coal to prove I'm not a criminal, but eh... 21:51:15 it seems every FOSS project is embracing Anubis over Clownflare, and I have mixed feelings over this