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njsg
tomman: imagine if the web browser had the capability of render content itself
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njsg
s@render@&ing@
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tomman
Network calls to download a static post: 2 (one for the post, another one maybe for the CSS)
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tomman
network calls to download this abomination: at least 10, including to offsite resources
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tomman
plus all the extra burned CPU cycles, the inconvenience of breaking your site on browsers not approved by The Junta, and even the initial weird rendering artifacts on Compliantā¢ browsers
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njsg
back when more sites I browsed at least had content properly in the html, disabling css and js in a mobile browser was like installing windows 98 on a DDR2 machine with an SSD
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tomman
Windows 98 on a SSD is a nerd dream come true
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tomman
those that argue that the charm of retrorigs are slow-as-molasses dying rust spinners can go choke on a Conner Cabo
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tomman
this is why every single of my retrorigs has solid storage :)
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njsg
there's probably a rabbit hole to follow if one is interested in that, trying to see how much can be modified to also improve performance overall, I suppose some have at least done some stuff like that, wasn't there a third-party proprietary driver to allow more RAM? or maybe I'm confusing with something else
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njsg
(installation IIRC is possible, although easier if you can replace with a, say, 512 MiB module, and what was the ceiling with the stock OS, 2 GiB?)
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tomman
9x/Me is limited to 512MB on a stock, unmodified system - anything over than that will trigger icky BSoDs on boot unless you edit SYSTEM.INI to cap max physical address below 512MB
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tomman
you can install it, it will just go burst in flames after the first reboot
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tomman
there are 3rd-party patches to lift out this limit, the most famous one is the RLoew's PATCHMEM (which used to be payware, until the dude died and his family released their patches for free)
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tomman
and EVEN THEN you may find out machines with weird errors still requiring SYSTEM.INI edits (like my dualboot T40)
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tomman
(had to declare the final 4MB a no-man zone or things like WMI, Clippy, and some DOS boxes would work erratically or not at all)
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tomman
WOWOW, I finally got a stupid Turnstile checkbox to check on Seamonkey!
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tomman
I had to endure the usual ~270 seconds timeout on my Ryzen, but this time the goddamned checkbox did actually rendered AND checked AND let me in
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tomman
so... progress?
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tomman
at least this time the checkbox didn't timed out, but I still have to poke at the box with the Inspector, fall into the endless script loop, and wait
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Harzilein
tomman: wow
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Harzilein
didn't know 270s is a magic number there
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Harzilein
should try that with the very old icecat mobile thing.
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Harzilein
(unrelated to iceape)
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tomman
Harzilein: it's hardware depending
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tomman
on my Ryzen 7 5700U is ~270 seconds
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Harzilein
were there ever any attempts to make "uxp mobile"?
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tomman
on a old Core 2 Duo T7200 is... 20 minutes
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tomman
should benchmark this Sandy Bridge one of these days, but I would expect no less than 10 minutes
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tomman
and by then the captcha has already expired
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Harzilein
is there something human readable that indicates expiry? or is it just a page refresh and vague notion of "notify us if this fails" or w/e?
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tomman
basically
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tomman
if you're real lucky, you MAY get a error message on the actual captcha box
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tomman
in red letters
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Harzilein
turnstyle slot machine
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tomman
but most of the times nothing renders and the page just reloads after the browser un-hangs
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tomman
I did got somehow lucky today
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tomman
TurnSickleā¢
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Harzilein
yeah, you got drawn in the "let this loser access his warez download" sweepstakes ;)
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Harzilein
i mean, is there any notion of them not considering their clients' clients as filthy unwashed masses in the first place? not potential, everyone, just some get some mercy.
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tomman
science.org is fiddly
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tomman
sometimes you get Clownflare'd
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tomman
sometimes it loads fine
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tomman
(Derek Lowe told once that there were some exceptions setup, but the whole stuff is finicky at best)