04:14:44 <nsITobin> that took longer than expected
04:15:39 <nsITobin> editing users now works.. it is as secure as phoebus is because apperently I got the logic right and it sealed holes my newer logic missed.. so.. Good.
04:18:14 <nsITobin> right the first time*
04:34:51 <augusto> Please ... That is my first time accessing chatzilla IRC ... I only want to report bugs
04:35:28 <augusto> Hello Seamonkey devs.
04:35:29 <augusto> Thanks very much for doing that browser.
04:35:31 <augusto> I use Seamonkey since before 2010.
04:35:32 <augusto> Unhappily since 2020 several sites are broken when trying access using
04:35:34 <augusto> seamonkey.
04:35:35 <augusto> Since previous version 2.53.19 the bookmarks feature is broken.
04:35:37 <augusto> Not is possible create an bookmark link and had worked in 2.53.18.
04:35:38 <augusto> Only waiting if the bookmark feature will be fixed in next release.
04:35:40 <augusto> Also since internal download manager code was updated the plugins
04:35:41 <augusto> Flashgot and downloadthemall are broken not having any fix from own
04:35:43 <augusto> creators.
04:35:44 <augusto> Have an nice week for you.
04:36:01 <nsITobin> augusto: you may want to not paste bulk text in
04:37:03 <augusto> excuse =(
04:37:25 <augusto> here is correct area to say about bugs ?
04:37:59 <nsITobin> augusto: I do know that the places frontend (library with bookmarks and history) is being updated.. a few items may be broken but need more detail.. as for extensions.. well I am Tobin so my answer is gonna be HOW did they break and also.. extensions kinda need actually maintained for what they target so.. again without more detail..
04:39:12 <augusto> bookmarks feature are broken ... not open and not create new bookmarks
04:39:13 <nsITobin> as for general webcompat.. it is as the backports are.. Always improving though
04:39:45 <nsITobin> augusto: you sure you don't have another broken extension busting bookmarks cause things changed?
04:40:34 <augusto> I have done an test with an clean seamonkey install without installing addons ... continue broken ... Seamonkey Linux 64 bits build current version
04:41:30 <augusto> I have removed the previous \home\username\.mozilla path folder so starting seamonkey will be created an new profile .... not fix .... bookmarks continue broken
04:41:46 <augusto> That is an important feature
04:42:27 <augusto> Since previous version 2.53.19 the bookmarks feature is broken
04:42:36 <nsITobin> augusto: I read it the first time..
04:43:12 <nsITobin> I cannot confirm with existing or without existing profile on windows and linux.. I can create edit and delete bookmarks from library window and bookmarks toolbar
04:43:34 <nsITobin> luckily i had my windows vm open still
04:43:41 <nsITobin> so i could just do it real quick for you
04:44:23 <IceCold10> import bookmarks is broken on 53.20, frg confirmed and provided a workaround, on a test build
04:44:27 <augusto> you are saying using current version in windows the bookmark works ?
04:44:35 <nsITobin> but I can't reproduce .. can you open tools > Web Development > Error Console clear it then go and try and create a bookmark real quick and tell me without pasting in here if it has errors and stuff
04:44:45 <augusto> an moment
04:45:14 <nsITobin> IceCold10: they are saying managing adding etc of any bookmark is busted
04:45:25 <nsITobin> like places is completely borked
04:45:32 <nsITobin> and in a clean profile
04:45:36 <nsITobin> but i don't see how
04:46:40 <nsITobin> and if it was that busted by normal circumstances it surely would have been noticed especially when we all figured out there were a few glitches.. not saying there isn't some edge case that has gotten you in this condition but it is strange i can't reproduce it AND you are getting it on a clean profile..
04:47:28 <augusto> opened tools > Web Development > Error Console .... not is possible create bookmark and not was done logs about it in error console
04:47:37 <augusto> error console window is empty
04:47:44 <nsITobin> that..
04:47:57 <nsITobin> isn't good .
04:48:06 <nsITobin> but it is also hardly possible
04:48:11 <nsITobin> outside a single profile
04:48:26 <nsITobin> and I still can't find anything wrong about basic bookmark management
04:49:04 <augusto> Here is AMD FX 6300 ...4 GB RAM ... GT 640 ... Lubuntu ( Ubuntu using LXQT ) 24.04 and was done an complete OS dependencies update in 12-2024
04:49:13 <nsITobin> augusto: where did you get your copy of seamonkey?
04:49:20 <nsITobin> ah from them
04:50:19 <augusto> Seamonkey profiles in \home\username\.mozilla and \home\cache\.mozilla both paths removed .... seamonkey start and create an new profile and not any installation of addons
04:50:46 <augusto> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
04:50:58 <nsITobin> augusto: you confident enough to remove the package version and go grab the mainline build and try running that in place.. see if maybe ubuntu screwed it up?
04:51:31 <augusto> I use Seamonkey since before 2007 when Netscape Navigator was discontinued ...
04:51:41 <nsITobin> Netscape Power!
04:51:43 <nsITobin> anyway
04:51:51 <augusto> hehehe :)
04:52:03 <nsITobin> so if you are using the mainline linux build not from a package manager..
04:52:16 <nsITobin> i'll grab it cause I am using it from the package manager
04:52:22 <nsITobin> see if it acts differently..
04:53:21 <nsITobin> nop
04:53:24 <nsITobin> no differently
04:53:32 <nsITobin> ... i uhh dunno what to tell you
04:53:59 <nsITobin> except maybe try posting in the SeaMonkey board on Mozillazine.. might get some eyes on it
04:54:16 <nsITobin> https://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=51
04:54:55 <augusto> good times .... Netscape was my main browser ... for me Seamonkey was created by Netscape coders so will be my main new browser and is at today
04:55:37 <nsITobin> this is a very strange problem
04:55:49 <augusto> thanks for replying with the link
04:56:32 <nsITobin> well i have never seen anything like that that didn't cause an error in the error console and passes across profiles and busts bookmarks so specifically
04:56:37 <nsITobin> is history affected?
04:56:59 <augusto> history works ... not any issues
04:57:15 <nsITobin> see that is even more strange cause it is LITERALLY the same backend
04:57:27 <nsITobin> Places aka the Library Window
04:57:33 <nsITobin> and shared code
04:58:49 <nsITobin> well good luck on mozillazine.. hopefully someone can figure something out cause this seems.. impossible
04:59:31 <nsITobin> this channel is also logged so if someone here has an idea you can read the backlog
04:59:33 <augusto> all good for you !   have an nice day ... thanks ! =)
05:02:06 <nsITobin> You too
08:45:26 <IceCold10> hi guys, no windows binaries on nightly builds?
08:52:31 <frg_Away> no. Different build system and no time. If y0ou need a new one let me know the language and arch x86 x64
08:53:24 <frg_Away> From 02/13 https://seafiles.thereisonlyxul.org/nightly/latest-comm-253/
08:53:38 <IceCold10> not "need", just used to take the builds from WG9s from time to time, to be updated
08:53:47 <IceCold10> as it is, I'll wait for the release
08:54:02 <frg_Away> build without runtime includes so needs the redist
08:54:21 <IceCold10> I think its the one you linked me to, when we last spoke
08:55:33 <IceCold10> I also only take the zip for x64
08:55:47 <IceCold10> the installer is only when its stable
08:55:56 <IceCold10> because SM is my main browser
08:56:19 <IceCold10> nvm, thanks anyway
08:58:01 <frg_Away> These releases are usually as stable as the ogfficial ones. I use them 100%. If there are problmes they are either spotted fast or go into the release too.
08:59:47 <IceCold10> is that link a permanent one for windows builds?
09:01:24 <IceCold10> ok, I see
09:01:52 <IceCold10> When you do make a windows binary, is it possible to add a zip for x64 us-en?
09:05:12 <frg_Away> Packager alwys generates it but I don't usuylly upload it. Does not register mapi dlls so usualyl just use the installer. Can upload too
09:06:26 <IceCold10> thanks
09:06:47 <IceCold10> I overwrite the "current" portable of mine for tests of my addons
09:09:58 <frg_Away> augusto bookmarking is ok for me on Linux too. It might be distribution specific or a problem with you linux user profile.
12:04:51 <tomman> Clownflare Siege, Day 24: crashes will continue until morale improves! Also, Big Fútbol enters the fray
12:05:10 <tomman> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43157000 apparently if there is something that Hackernews loves/dislikes even more than CF is... sportsball
12:05:53 <tomman> many victims of the Clownflare Siege tried chiming in into that thread, got severely downvoted and even punished by the Brigade of Happy Clownflare Customers
12:06:29 <tomman> but the gem was this dude suggesting that if you wish to enter a Clownflare'd site, you should bring a court order letting you in!
12:07:39 <tomman> (it seems nobody uses alternative/niche browsers in Spain, as all answers from this "Clownfare vs. LaLiga" topic at Spainard forums are essentially "I'm with CF, fuck LaLiga")
12:08:16 <tomman> and yes, I root for M.A.D. across both parties involved into this otherwise irrelevant legal case to me :)
15:05:29 <nsITobin> well I am pretty happy
15:06:18 <frg_Away> hi happy nsITobin
15:10:24 <nsITobin> specifically I am happy things are working and reached the point where long stalls shouldn't be happening cause the foundation is pretty much there now
15:10:39 <nsITobin> in me doing things
15:24:46 <nsITobin> https://i.ibb.co/vvYwt72t/image.png
15:38:16 <frg_Away> hi therube
15:38:27 <therube> helo
15:38:35 <nsITobin> sup
18:46:45 <nsITobin> any news therube
18:47:34 <therube> on PM?  haven't looked in days. on the weather warming. finally, a little.
18:47:52 <nsITobin> yeah we just switched to our 2 weeks of spring today
18:48:00 <nsITobin> here in texas
18:48:19 <nsITobin> but i meant in general
19:10:49 <Sompi> http://paste.dy.fi/5Mm/plain
19:14:14 <nsITobin> Sompi: much of the education i was subject to was geared towards remembering the answers and passing the tests.. it has gotten so much worse now ..