00:03:00 <tomman> what rust needs is a little bit of oil~
00:48:54 <nsITobin> come back soon FrankLion :)
14:05:04 <tomman> "Day 14 of the Clownflare Siege"
14:05:07 <tomman> no love so far
14:05:25 <tomman> but this post is sobering: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=32045&start=200#p259724
14:05:31 <tomman> that recaps the media attention
14:05:48 <tomman> some writers are swamped into work so they have no chance to write about this attack
14:06:25 <tomman> others HATE Clownflare even more than us, so they consider the brickwall a good thing because those are websites that we should let rot (ignoring that it impacts sites people have no choice on using them)
14:06:50 <tomman> but surprisingly Clownflare DID deployed a fix for FF115ESR
14:07:39 <tomman> ...that one is indeed surprising since the current ESR is 128, but maybe CF customers still serve a lot of Windows 7 users?
14:15:26 <frg_Away> They don't want bad press and breaking a Firefox in service is bad press.
14:15:45 <frg_Away> Breaking fringe browsers is noise for them.
15:01:42 <nsITobin> I almost forgot what it was like to suddenly realize it is like 3am and I should be sleeping not coding and listening to metal
15:02:16 <nsITobin> I could use a nap :P
15:04:30 <frg_Away> zzzzzz
15:04:59 <frg_Away> 1 sheep 2 sheeps 3 sheeps 4 sheeps and so it goes on
15:06:44 <nsITobin> eh I'll be ok just run on less for today if I did nap i suspect it would be hours and I'd start slipping off my sleep cycle i been firmly sticking to
15:07:49 <nsITobin> cause most might have noticed in the past i'd be up at any hour and slide around the clock
17:04:55 <nsITobin> god damned php 8.. 8.4 depercated some xml functionality and also some older php functionality that fundamentally busts every xml lib that was abandoned before the 2010s
17:05:03 <nsITobin> including our magical rdf parser
17:06:14 <nsITobin> it isn't an issue right now but will be down the road .. unless i do something about it one way or another
17:06:34 <tomman> ha, reminds me the sorry state of Wine's AppDB right now
17:06:51 <tomman> someone flicked the switch to PHP8 on, and... the entire thing burst in flames
17:07:07 <tomman> they're still picking the pieces and gluing them back... one feature at a time, maybe
17:07:37 <tomman> I haven't touched a single line of PHP (professionally) since my second internship at college, circa 2009
17:07:48 <tomman> dunno what PHP version we used back then, probably 4.x
17:07:50 <nsITobin> I'd rather fork 7.3 but the window for that has left me.. 8.1 is in rhel so will get sec updates longer than most.. I dunno a php fork may be in order.. there are massive swaths of language changes I don't think are needed and depercations that are pissing me off..
17:18:28 <nsITobin> I might be able to fix it but not today :P
17:22:47 <therube> EOL markers.  who would have ever thought.
17:27:46 <nsITobin> they seem to be depercating half the language and altering the rest to fit all these strange pythonic javascript and obscure language constructs.. I just wanna make a webpage for christ sakes
17:28:16 <nsITobin> i mean at the end of the day.. I just wanna make several websites with things on em
17:28:51 <nsITobin> why has this become so complicated and cryptic and not reliable..
17:33:50 <nsITobin> all 33 developers with voting rights voted to schedule removal of compatibility with some of the most enduring and robust xml related classes no one has made a replacement for or are so overburdoned by a dependancy chain its basically a framework not a lib
17:36:20 <nsITobin> the changes they have been doing have been chiefly centered around exploiting the stricter types and weird constructs or common newer constructs weirdly added all while busting libs left and right.. PHP since 8 seems to be geared to corperate framework development completely now..
18:33:58 <nsITobin> yeah this entire class is based on how xml_set_object works..
18:46:13 <nsITobin> I may have fixed it but its relying on some OTHER older syntax that may become depercated later.. i dunno
19:33:53 <Sompi> seems that the shortcut keys to downloads has been changed again in Firefox
19:34:01 <nsITobin> isn
19:34:04 <Sompi> now it is ctrl+shift+y
19:34:09 <nsITobin> isn't it ctrl shift j
19:34:14 <Sompi> no
19:34:16 <Sompi> it isn't anymore
19:34:20 <Sompi> now it is y
19:34:25 <nsITobin> ... how come
19:34:26 <Sompi> why they keep changing stuff like that
19:34:46 <nsITobin> what is j assigned to now?
19:35:10 <nsITobin> if it was the library window in general I could live with it but if its not assigned or is an unrelated function I am gonna be not happy
19:35:13 <nsITobin> Sompi:
19:35:34 <nsITobin> cause downloads are hacked into the places window in firefox
19:35:45 <Sompi> ctrl+shift+j goes to some weird "parent process browser console" and ctrl+j moves the focus to the search engine box
19:35:49 <nsITobin> edbhnrwu4ieSUBG
19:36:02 <nsITobin> K
19:36:11 <nsITobin> How are you Sompi?
19:36:15 <nsITobin> doing well?
19:36:54 <Sompi> I'm ok
19:37:48 <nsITobin> splitting my "parsing" of various types to its own module.. to be called by content module.. enough to justify a new class
19:43:16 <nsITobin> https://dpaste.com/F49U25FKG
21:29:49 <frg_Away> gitlab wip updated
23:07:52 <nsITobin> i have provisions!
23:08:04 <nsITobin> oh the frg went to sleep, rest well the frg.