02:40:34 <tomman> https://www30.mercantilbanco.com/melp/login oh yeah, one of my banks broke under SeaMonkey, finally
02:40:40 <tomman> time to close that account for good, it seems
02:40:53 <tomman> also, notice that they're using Clownflare for hosting/transit!
02:41:24 <tomman> closing this account will be OH SO CONVENIENT, especially after having burned $5 to update my debit card so some almost useless MasterCard Debit
02:41:45 <tomman> ...this bank still runs W7 at their branches, and their ATMs run XP... if you can still find one in service
02:41:55 <tomman> but their home banking? Oh no no no
03:36:51 <franstam> sounds like a double standard aka hyporcite?
03:36:57 <franstam> hypocrite
13:51:30 <nsITobin> I need a better way to update these let's encrypt certs and propagate them between servers
13:52:03 <nsITobin> i literally got it replaced MINUTES before it expired unless i missed one
13:52:26 <tomman> you're doing better than a couple of banks I know :D
13:54:04 <nsITobin> tomman: I also know how to design a god damned website .. filling it with content .. THAT is what I SUCK AT.. and despite my best wishes.. INFRASTRUCTURE in and of its self is not actually content
13:58:35 <tomman> infra is unsexy indeed
14:00:28 <frg_Away> hi all
14:01:23 <nsITobin> greetings frg_Away
14:07:13 <nsITobin> is the seamonkey wordpress template available somewhere?
14:11:17 <nsITobin> since a number of mid-range trees simply aren't useful to even really me.. but the gecko 1.x ones are as well as 52 and newer I am gonna eliminate the mid-range versions
14:16:30 <nsITobin> so .. gonna do 1.7 1.8 (seamonkey) 1.9.2, Mozilla ESR 52, seamonkey 2.53, seamonkey wip (from patch queue), and mozilla-central with comm
14:17:35 <frg_Away> nsITobin was all before my time. I also usually leave infra to IanN and ewong
14:19:06 <nsITobin> well in my research especially in custom or classically mozilla.. my answers are often found in gecko 1.7-1.9.2 rather than say esr24 .. its either modern (to us) modern the modern or ancient.. in NEARLY all cases
14:25:19 <njsg> I need to see how are the different repos again, perhaps next time I have to track down a change in or the introduction of a behaviour/feature
14:25:42 <nsITobin> njsg: which ones?
14:26:11 <njsg> I think I've usually used the historical cvs-on-git and comm-central
14:26:50 <nsITobin> 2.0 9ish 17 24 31 and 45 are significant versions from a whole-codebase perspective they all occured around upheavals in tech or buildsystem..
14:27:28 <nsITobin> pre-quantum that is
14:28:05 <nsITobin> but after basically having em indexed for a decade its diminishing returns vs effort and space
14:28:51 <nsITobin> it's*
14:29:34 <nsITobin> hell I'll open 1.7 just to LOOK at it and draw inspiration..
15:14:54 <nsITobin> welp.. brb writing a web panel
16:10:10 <nsITobin> i hate wikitext
16:10:16 <nsITobin> i hate it hate it hate it
16:11:31 <nsITobin> everything that supports it is either integrated, under a license I can't use, or has a dependancy tree like it was written in python not php
16:18:13 <nsITobin> first I need to learn line by line processing.. then I will write my own subset wikitext parser that can parse enough to be useful for sucking info off the mozilla wiki
16:23:20 <Harzilein> wasn't there more than one wiki engine in use at mozilla?
16:56:38 <nsITobin> Harzilein: mdn used to be wikilike
16:57:02 <nsITobin> then it eventually became yaml headers with html in a git repo
16:57:12 <nsITobin> i long copied that
17:07:05 <Harzilein> nsITobin: at some point they had some enterprise (java) wiki engine i think
18:06:13 <nsITobin> indeed
18:06:30 <nsITobin> sorry Harzilein buscuits and sausage gravy happened