That is why I took the sledgehammer and ported the library.

i mean I can't fault your logic it isn't like PART of Borealis didn't get refreshed from Pale Moon code same as SeaMonkey getting refreshed from Firefox code..

rest well frg

nitter.poast.org/deno_land/status/1876728474666217739 haha Orrible

I HOPE that Orrible® starts asserting their JavaScript™ trademarks with their legendary packs of angry lawyers

sure, it would destroy the Chromeist webdev community overnight... and that will be AWESOME~!

How does oracle own JavaScript.. by all rights that SHOULD be owned by Verizon

Of course it would also destroy software as we know it, as Orrible would try to assert copyright over every language ever, but hey, don't spoil my fun :D

tomman:

wat

why Verizon?

because version owns all netscape trademarks

oh, I thought Microsoft now owned them

and netscape .. specifically eich created javascript

or was it Facebook?

so how did oracle get it

the trademarks have been resold so many times...

the JS one they got it via Sun, which was the one that actually trademarked it

how does sun own Javascript

java != javascript

Well.. shit

jwz.org/blog/2019/03/brand-necrophilia-part-7 hmmm, you're right - Meta now owns the remnants of what was the Netscape corporation, except that the trademarks stayed at AOL

but how we went from AOL to Verizon? IIRC what went to Verizon was Yahoo aka Oath

wtf, because Verizon DID acquired AOL in 2015, D'OH!

i can't find any record of a trademark registered for gecko

and then they also acquired Yahoo, and that's where Oath merged

or a dead one

--came to be, by the merger of AOL and Yahoo

...but even then Oath is not anymore a Verizon biz

> On May 3, 2021, Verizon announced it would sell 90 percent of its Verizon Media division to Apollo Global Management for $5 billion. The division became the second incarnation of Yahoo! Inc.[7]

the netscape trademarks are owned by an AOL Services llc or something to that effect

...OK, they still own a 10%, but the other 90% is some Wall Street capital management vultures

AOL MEMBERSHIP SERVICES LLC (LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY; DELAWARE, USA)

so technically The New Yahoo owns AOL everything, which also includes the NSCP trademarks

and the New Yahoo is "90% Apollo, 10% Verizon", built over the ashes of AOL and the original Yahoo and some Western Electric phones

why USAian business have to be that convoluted!?

Aside: there is still a small bit of the original Yahoo still surviving: Yahoo Japan

what happened to communism being the threat

tell me THAT

it suddenly isn't anymore

...well, shit - even Y! Japan is no more

oh hell

it's now LINE

oh

interesting

so for all practical purposes, Yahoo finally died in 2023

tomman: its all gone or corrupt.. time to wash it all way and rebuild it all

wear gloves

so remember my old mantra .. Pale Moon is not Firefox and never will be again?

day and a half to make it Firefox 2/3ish

reminds me of a meme at the long defunct Spanish version of Slashdot

on a source level

i was full..

of shit

tomman: running actual slashcode?

"Barrapunto ya no es lo que era pero aun usa Debian" ("Spanish Slashdot is not what it used to be but still runs Debian"

Harzilein: and a very VERY outdated version

what was the name of that other more edgy slashcode instance...

the site finally bite the dust before the pandemic

kuro5hin, right

was _that_ a slashcode instance?

barrapunto, nice :)

yeah, it was mostly Spainards, tho

and the local trolls really disliked Latin Americans posting there

it was nowhere near of the cesspool that Slashdot became, but at times Barrapunto was an awkward place to be if you weren't from Spain

(But then Slashdot is mostly USA anyway)

Anyway, readership steeply declined in the early '10s, and so did contributors too

at it worst point, it had one new post every month or so, instead of several times a day, and journals were largely abandoned too

it finally died a silent death sometime before the pandemic

I guess github is now hiding comments and activity in issues behind javascript?

or maybe it's one of their transient issues and will be gone in a few hours...

moo

buh

I think Windows Update has killed my NTLite'd LTSC 2019 its in an update install loop and I can do nothing

i mean even in the early days of nlite this was always possible but dang I sure had a good stretch of good luck doing it

thank you :-)

nsITobin: are you sure it does not have crowdstrike software? :-P

2025 and ClownStrike is still a thing, wow

the market works, it seems

njsg: i am pretty sure the update is in a failed loop because its trying to service something I removed and unlike MOST times it no longer is happy about it.. I have had this happen back in the XP days but of course XP either booted or it bluescreened.. windows 10.. can do lots more .. none of it useful like keep trying and failing to install the same update never allowing me to login

CrowdStrike: We Stop Breaches with AI-native Cybersecurity

AI .. IS a threat to Cybersecurity

the most I've seen has been NT 7.1 taking ages to install updates that would fail

it seems sometimes this is because Windows Update lacks dependency management

njsg: nt kernel versions became meaningless with Windows 7

I went to get some cash to that bank branch I visit say, 2, maybe 3 times a year

they're still using XP and IE8

HOW

WHY

do they even get an audit!?

XP, IE8, and the theme service improperly disabled

well its properly disabled they just didn't set the gdi metrics and colors back

once UXTheme engages it will adjust the GDI metrics to accomidate the skin

they're still using Office 2007 for no good reason at all too

I doubt MS is taking money from anyone these days to keep XP-era software alive for life

and yet... this smallish Venezuelan bank defies all logic

nsITobin: how else do I say "Windows 7 and Windows 2008R2"?

njsg: Good Windows

LOL

tho win2k is Great Windows

Ctrl+C Ctrl+V works in latest FireFox the same as in previous version of SM 2.53.19 or earlier, e.g. duplicating a separator (or bookmark) works with CtrlC and CtrlV without moving the selection

Windows 98 and NT 5.0 are offended :-P

guest: An effort in the SeaMonkey Project has been to refresh the Places/Library (History and Bookmarks) code at least up to the point that Firefox started crippling features of it.. So some behavior changes and minor bugs are to be expected.

as written: in FireFox copy+paste is working but not in SM 2.53.20. The question is is this intended or a regression bug ?

this was were, bookmark/library window?

guest: window or sidebar

guest: logbot.thereisonlyxul.org/seamonkey/20250107#c14149-c14151 from last night

does that answer anything?

Bookmarks side bar and Bookmarks Library Manager

I will take a look when I continue with the places porting

I, uh...

it give a workaround but it does not explain whether a bug or by a design.

I tried, it didn't paste, I used the context menu, it pasted, now c+v pastes too

frg_Away : thank

could you reproduce it ?

for everyone present.. Places == Library == History and Bookmarks (and kinda sorda but not really Downloads)

nsgj: likely because the selection changed

Code is in the middle of 60 currently. 2.53.20 fixes a few other obscure copy and paste bugs but still needs some updates.

guest: if the copied separator is selected, I can't paste, if a pasted selector is selected, I can paste more of them

njsg: that's exactly what I've described.

frg_Away: is it likely that in one of the next few versions of SM the sites are working better - e.g. live.com (web based microsoft mail) or msn.com ?

I need to finsh the js update then it will. No eta

«The operation timed out when attempting to contact www. wg9s .com : The requested site did not respond to a connection request and the browser has stopped waiting for a reply.»

tonymec|away: i.ibb.co/4dgQjzm/image.png

tried to contact him via mail but didn't get a reply yes. Was a severe storm in the area so lines might be out. Will see that i dig out his phone number.

^reply yet

i hope he is ok

nsITobin: yeah, my traceroute also stops at 100.41.x.x