12:58:41 <tomman> ugh, is it me or Outlook broke today?
12:58:50 <nsITobin> checking
12:59:10 <tomman> just woke up to find a "insert your password" dialog, input correct password and it dies with a "Too Many Requests"
12:59:22 <tomman> amazingly the same happens if I try logging in from the browser instead
13:00:01 <tomman> (I know my password is correct - if I type in the wrong one it gets rejected as expected, but the correct one instead goes to a "Too Many Requests" error page)
13:00:43 <nsITobin> web works for me on release
13:00:51 <nsITobin> tomman:
13:00:58 <tomman> yes, the "Too Many Requests" is a HTTP 429 error
13:03:21 <tomman> OK, erased my cookies for Outlook, now this time instead I get a blank page and a 403 error
13:03:38 <nsITobin> too many signin requests is a thing
13:04:10 <tomman> if I try instead from Mail&News, I keep getting that dreaded 429
13:04:19 <tomman> yay MICROS~!
13:04:21 <tomman> yay MICROS~1
13:04:21 <nsITobin> yeah you're spamming microsoft
13:04:32 <tomman> not me, could be my stupid CGNAT then
13:04:53 <nsITobin> mrnhmath: hello
13:05:14 <tomman> let me try a login from FFESR then...
13:05:39 <tomman> ...yes, MS has shitlisted me
13:05:46 <tomman> it ALSO fails with a 429 error!!!!
13:05:54 <tomman> ugh, this is why I HATE CGNAT
13:05:56 <nsITobin> stop hammering the system
13:06:00 <nsITobin> you're just making it worse
13:09:38 <tomman> Problem is, half of my banks rely on that email address
13:09:43 <tomman> and today is a regional holiday
13:11:25 <nsITobin> tried logging in in a post-useable browser?
13:12:16 <nsITobin> tomman: these anti-spam messures can get paranoid as fuck any number of factors could trigger it.. but least this time it sure isn't anything to do with SeaMonkey's capabilities or lack there of
13:12:27 <mrnhmath> good morning nsITobin
13:13:03 <nsITobin> unless its on the mailnews side and that is triggering .. messures
13:13:03 <tomman> nsITobin: so yeah, this time the only thing i can associate is my CGNAT'd connection, which keeps me causing problems with many sites because CGNAT is a crime against human rights
13:13:31 <nsITobin> as in mailnews triggers some flagged activity fucking your account.. that will teach you to use netscape!
13:14:04 <nsITobin> nothing is more netscape in the comm side more than mailnews core
13:14:13 <nsITobin> except maybe chatzilla
13:14:31 <nsITobin> the rest has been virtually redesigned by now
13:14:46 <tomman> I can't even login to ANY Microsoft site, so can't even check for "suspicious" activity
13:14:51 <tomman> loooooovely, Micro-Soft
13:14:58 <nsITobin> use edge
13:15:20 <nsITobin> if you can't with edge then i guess you haven't been a good party member
13:17:40 <tomman> I have no Windows devices in this house that can run Chredge
13:17:45 <tomman> but wait, I can try something else
13:17:52 <tomman> ...let me switching to a mobile connection
13:20:29 <nsITobin> I thought ipv6 was supposed to eliminate NAT and the need for carrier grade network address translation
13:20:34 <nsITobin> also good morning the frg
13:24:15 <frg_Away> nsITobin tomman greetings
13:36:44 <nsITobin> any luck tomman
13:37:19 <tomman> OK, some progress
13:38:04 <tomman> today was the day cellphones decided to have GPRS-like latency on 4G, but whatever
13:38:10 <tomman> from a mobile tethered to my PC, indeed MS forced me to reset my password
13:38:13 <tomman> so I went and did it... the whole sekuritah theater
13:38:25 <tomman> (this was from the Mail&News OAUTH logon dialog, getting recovery codes from another account with a modal dialog on top of a 768p display is... not fun)
13:38:57 <tomman> Anyway, MS still cockblocks me from logging into my MS account from the browser on my main ISP, but I at least managed to please the MSOAUTH2 gods... today