superglue gel worked at least for now .. it could snap off again i glued the arm directly to the lense cause it snapped just after the fasioner and these are rimless glasses so the lenses the nose bridge and the arms are your lot

I kept adding more glue to try and build up a layer of materal seems ok

nsITobin hi

Good morning frg_Away

patch day with the last Windows 7 updates is here. Farewell.

Windows 7 was a good os one of the best versions of Windows ever released along with 3.1 and 95 and Win2k

I heard some mumbling about service contracts so there is still hope for patches but we need t see next month. Probably not.

It was the last OS from MS with a polished ui for sure even if I seldom run it these days outside of a vm.

frg_Away: I still maintain Vista had superior aesthetics with the bold green/blue vs the pale... blue

but yeah there was a good balance between explorification and old dialogs and property sheets and classy aesthtics and complete design language

I basically follow the Windows Aero UX Guidelines .. overall

even if I am not doing aero-style stuff no more

nsITobin well it seems no Server 2008 updates this month so it is dead already.

Server 2008 was probably the longest MS product in service.

frg_Away: convince the association to start funding kernelex for windows 7 LOL

nahh we need AI features first

oh 2008 the 2008 so build 6001

yes not 2008 R2

frg_Away: get the js engine capable and I'll make a bloody AI consuming sidebar for seamonkey

and i will then dare you to include it

LOL

I need an AI to decide on this first

ask gemini, google knows what's best for mozilla don't ya know.. Gemini told me that objectively Mozilla needs replaced.

gemini, did anyone ever clear that out about google blacklisting anything linking to the gemini protocol possibly being caused by google wanting to use the name themselves?

frg_Away: I think xkcd has an AI prototype in one of the comics

xkcd.com/221 (It's the random number one, "chosen by fair dice roll")

that's probably already better than some "GenAI"s out there, if 4 is within the range

If someone tries to massively rewrite portable shell scripts with "AI", that's time to dust off these "the end is nigh" signs

so far it's looking like there's one very good use of "GenAI": generating examples of coding errors and mistakes, and of portability issues.

next thing, it's gonna tell me it's lefty tighty and righty loosy

nsITobin server 2008 still got updates.

ah

Interesting that this one was really eol last month. No embedded option either linke for W7.

Same for Server 2008 R2 I noticed. Next month will tell I think.

a few updates occasionally trickle out after EoL has happened for every os since windows update

well until windows update service as a service you can't disable

in soviet windows windows update disables you

frg_Away:

nsITobin yes for things really critical.

windows kernel level exploits are being used as justification to deny access to kernels and get more cryptography and layers on linux

it upsets me

so many features in the linux kernel throughout the latetr half of the 6x series has been for hyperscaled servers, AI hardware, and non-x86/arm/risc hardware .. and also more rust prep

Well the latest VS2017 runtime from today now no longer installs in XP. sha256 signed only and who knows what else.

I think UXP and we will regret going past 2015 if not clang

in the end

but unlike UXP.. seamonkey COULD use clang fairly sort of easily

so there is that

but hey I'd be game for rearchiteching it to use standard msys2 and mingw gcc if you all were

Well we actuall do use itfor macOS and Windows x86.

i knew it can be built with it but i didn't try doing it except for one misfired build

on windows/linux

x86 msvc is broken. Not sure which poatch did it but even if not I switched to clang long ago because the msvc x86 build would crash fairly often during media playback. Seems they used more memory than the clang ones.

Have msys2 patches but the build broke. Needs more stuff and I ran out of time as usual.

remember if you switch to msys2 it will assume a 64bit target by default because msys2 is 64bit native

which is more useful of course but if you aren't aware of that fact and are used to msys1 being 32bit env it may be annoying

Unless I find some time wont happen and if it does x86 builds will be tested before the patches go live.

frg_Away: what pressing need is there for msys2 tho

central now needs it and rather annoying to switch in this case. I also like to stay halfway up to date,

cause if its just a matter of updating the package with msys1 still I been intending to do that for three years now.. actually five lol

could also explore cross-compiling linux to windows the only real snag aside from making it work is nsis

Its not a real cross compile. I pass

Rather keeping a Windows builder.

ah yes, it requires wine? (why? rust?)

mingw

Tools like rc and others I think

g4jc did some preleminary cross compiling with UXP from linux to windows using that stuff and bypassing nsis it showed some promise but g4jc absolutely refused to share HOW .. he did it and then pissed off until i was gone.

Linux 6.10 included RISCV processor architecture support for Rust.[17]

In July 2024 a change was accepted into Linux to support multiple Rust versions for the first time, allowing compiling using both 1.78 (Released 2 May, 2024) and 1.79 (Released 13 June, 2024).[18]

As of August 2024, Rust for Linux depends on unstable features of the Rust compiler.[1]

brb forking the linux kernel

depends on what [finnish swearing]

Drivers scheduled for inclusion in Linux kernel:

QR code DRM panic handler[18]

redhat added a graphical amdgpu kernel panic qr screen

this was to push rust in the kernel forward

every counsel member and contributor here KNOWS what this means...

WE

have seen it before

there's the question of whether it's a good idea to involve rust in linux (and one thing that raises a question is platform support: how's that going to work?)

now using "unstable features", isn't that bringing mozilla-level rust awesomeness to linux?

njsg: when has "how is that going to work" EVER been a question of any relevance to a rust project

nsITobin: [WD50 joke]

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41780297 great, another bad reimplementation of good ol' desktop apps ON THE WEB™

what now?

and of course the ONE SANE COMMENT in the entire thread gets buried in downvotes

"An old version of Winamp will load very quickly and run very well on modest hardware. This webpage does not scroll smoothly on a 2019 Mac Book Pro and there's a long delay in loading the gratuitous, confusing video you have on the page. You have created a massive performance regression for no reason."

because it insulted Hackernews web ego

webamp?

"It's a bit of fun. Relax."

until someone ships that into production, then it's not "relax" anymore

webamp is exactly the kind of stuff the apps on the web is supposed to be.. and we will get very few to none like it..

is there a HN thread debating the awesome WinAmp so-called "copyleft" license?

tomman:

njsg: yep, there was one last week

(the thing actually calls itself "copyleft", honestly it should be declared non-enforceable because it was evidently not written as a consistent text... it's outright hilarious how silly it becomes...)

"you MUST assign copyright to us and then you MUST license your contributions to us" to me means you can't contribute

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41636804 that's the one

So I am gonna fork the Linux Kernel and strip out rust and all hardware support not x86_64

and only dos/windows filesystems and ext and xfs

maybe leave arm in but arm will likely go rust

theregister.com/2024/10/08/linus_torvalds_grammar_complaint in the meanwhile, Linus has become an actual Grammar Nazi

i think he wants it to be mroe direct language ..

like "This fixes that" instead of a user story book entry

that i can't fault him for

i caught just as much shit over it at MCP even tho I merely emulated Mozilla in that regard

doing and landing patches in a pseudo-mozilla way

butbutbut I enjoy reading walls o' text about bugfixes :)

including mandatory rants on your favorite hardware OEMs

like that time Rockchip invented its own calendar

because the Gregorian calendar sucked to them or something :D

The wall of text should be in the bug .. right?

not the commit message

also good night frg

sometimes the trauma is just too big

tomman: aren't rants supposed to be for code comments?

lol

/ XXXTobin: The fuck?!

and // XXXTobin: This makes more sense than the crap that was there before.

Oh, no doubt, I have my fair share of comment soap operas

but sometimes the mere act of fixing a bug leaves deep emotional scars

tomman: .. sometimes.. it does.

tomman: didn't Excel mix starting at one and zero *and* get a year wrong in the leap year formula?

and i am being honest not sarcastic it can

if Excel did that, then I guess people coming up with their own calendars pales in comparison :-P

sometimes computer go best with a shotgun :D

the struggle to work out what the issue is let alone the solution can be very very painful and prolong over time

nsITobin: no, rants are supposed to be for comp.os.linux.advocacy or the like

I am almost too young for news groups

also, bugs you've been chasing for years without a clear solution, just kludgy workarounds that didn't really addressed the root cause because I DON'T KNOW?

the real ones

tomman: I think that is called MozDevelopment

and yet once you finally drill down into said root cause, it turns out into a massive D'OH! Moment™

and we are all guilty there

yep no doubt.. MozDevelopment

:P

and then you feel the urge to quit software development, move to Siberia, and start herding cats

Welcome to my tenure at MCP

but with me it was give up computers and do gardening

it's over 90 degrees every day for 9 months out of the year.. guess I am doing computers forever as long as the A/C holds out

tomman: