how naive, MZLA believes advertising can and should be saved :D

tomman: yeah its insane

aww, JWZ only blocked two idiots this time: one defending EME (because apparently Netflix is a "must have" for mankind), and another idiot complaining about JWZ being "emotional"

tomman: why is JWZ saying shit i was saying 10 years ago

literally

1. Building THE reference implementation web browser, and

2. Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.

I blame San Francisco

mastodon.social/@jwz/113250642473455523 and this is the JWZ that pisses me off badly

well i maintain UXP and Pale Moon tech was was fine throughout my tenure and certainly gets development

he is right tho.. nice things were depercated in 2005 and have reached the end of long-term support

OK, that hurts :D

and this is why I now use Windows Me

that was depercated before it was released

lol

is there a trick to being able to follow links with the keyboard even if they're not textual? like on firefox I can use the surfingkeys extension which will label every clickable element with a pair of letters, or back in the day the conkeror browser used to have that built-in.

haven't been able to find anything like that for seamonkey; does it exist?

i dunno i never even heard of anything like that save using tab and arrow keys somehow

yeah, that is technically viable but it's very slow compared to this

I kinda like seamonkey, but not enough to give up on the keyboard

I guess this is more of a browser for mouse users; that's fine

technomancy: all I know is old, because I've not tried to use anything like that in gecko browsers for years now

yeah, I was able to get keysnail to work in palemoon, but it wouldn't install in seamonkey

last I delved into this area: conqueror, on top of xulrunner, vimperator, pentadactyl. I think at least the latter might have run on seamonkey too, but not sure

yeah, conkeror was the pinnacle of browsers; nothing since has come close

it used to be possible to run conkeror on seamonkey but I couldn't get it working when I tried yesterday

conqueror IIRC was meant to be Emacs-like and pentadactyl vim-like, but I pretty much could get the latter to be Emacs-like

now never heard of keysnail, but it might be worth checking if it will work with SeaMonkey with little or no adaptation.

problem is webextensions explicitly ban rebinding ctrl-n and ctrl-p

service smb start

...

despite the fact that I haven't opened a new window intentionally in over a decade

in the base UI I suppose the only thing will be the tab key?

nsITobin: Restarting service...

nsITobin: Caching service dependencies...

nsITobin: Segmentation fault

LOL

nice

gdb: command not found

i should hack bash to say Bad command or file name

... best make sure I have an alt shell installed before hacking bash

LOL

there's always busybox (it has its own sh, right?), and I'm sure minnie.tuhs.org will have sources for some shells

technomancy: okay, that - about webexts not being able to bind some keybindings - is... wow.

that bad, uh?

njsg: it's insultingly stupid

because it's justified "for security reasons"

was that decided before or after preventing web pages to bind these bindings?

because the old yellow webapp OWA did have that problem

that was a lot more recent

close tab? oops, message marked as read, open tab? oops something else happened to message

at least with firefox it didn't hit until 2017

chrome had that problem much earlier tho

mozilla bought k-9 mail to... add tracking?