ghacks.net/2024/10/01/mozillas-mass…-clash-with-ublock-origin-developer oh MZLA, you didn't!

gorhill won't back down

about the ONLY thing I respect him for

oh Mozilla now goes the "privacy policy" route too

jesus fucking christ

seriously what is mozilla doing

I'd ask them but I am autobanned from every mozilla matrix channel by bot

perhaps one of the worst things the current tech situation has is "app stores"

and of course Hackernews is dogpiling on Gorhill for having balls to defend his principles

it's okay as far as it remains as a side method to obtain the program you want

it stops being okay when it's relied as a main distribution system, or worse, as the *sole* way to obtain a given program

I know gorhill he is a smart guy but has incorrect ideas on UX and features and was extremely hostile to Pale Moon back when that wasn't excactly called for yet.. Pale Moon users worshiped the ground he posted on and his word was gospel.. despite the fact he didn't officially support Pale Moon until it was brought to his attention the added support (contributed from elsewhere) that added SeaMonkey support makes Gorhill's former argument of not

targeting non-australis bs and Pale Moon users got their fully working and "supported" ublock ..

In Windows 4 days there was DLL hell and there was lack of a package manager, but usually you could get the programs without an "app store" in the middle.

windows 4?

so you mean nt4?

9X

9x/Me

nobody used NT4 :P

tomman: oh, but wasn't NT4 considered more usable performance-wise?

sure, if you could find drivers for it, install the right amount of Service Packs, and pray

NT4 is literally NT3.51 with the full win32 shell

oh, you want to play videogames? Forget it, 9x is it

frankly windows 3.1's interface was better

i wish the freenode logs were searchable

I violently disagree, I never liked Program/File Manager

i bet i can pull up so MANY statements that say automated testing doesn't work

now, Win98's Explorer was peak Explorer

and humans can't be trusted

XP turned off the web bits, and Vista ruined it

Windows NT 6.1 explorer is Aaaaaaaaaargh Dammit

at least IMHO

tomman: honestly i never liked the shell update

8 came and added The Ribbon™, and it was there where I wrote off Explorer.exe completely

explorer in windows vista and 7 is top notch as far as that IE and directui tech could take em

95/NT4 Explorer is... yeah, too barebones yet

tomman: newoldexplorer

fixes that no problem

the ribbon goes in my book as how not to do things, it's nice as an option, but as the only interface it rendered programs hard to use, features hard to find

Still better than 3.x or 10+

add openshell and get a proper statusbar back

boom vista/7 explorer

i literally refuse to use office 2007 and newer

Office 2000 had the right approach by allowing a different mode where some options were hidden, but which could be disabled

that is how dedicated I am to NOT using a ribbon

I would use older xp64 mspaint

i would avoid wordpad and on 8+ newoldexplorer or other hacks

I HATE THE RIBBON

to me it's not a matter of refusing to use, it's a matter of, if I'm looking at it, I just get immensely confused because things are not in what I see as a logical arrangement for that UI, and it seems to rely too much in lack of consistence, which also makes things less readable, discoverable, etc

I'm a dinosaur. I like simple and ordered. This is why I use TOOLBARS

but not nearly as much as needing to open a SEPERATE context menu for context menus now because they hid all the non-telemetry inidcated options

I like arranging my tools just like I need them

this is why I believe Office 97 was peak Office

njsg: my fine motor skills are totally trash so thems ribbon cables.. pull hard enough to disconnect but not hard enough to slam my knuckles into sharp metal 2000s cases

tomman: allow me to disagree. Office 2000 has Links.,

s@,$@@

if you want Links, play Zelda instead :P

oh wait, there is only one

but that Links is not felis catus!

which one the mso2k+ links or that paper cat

or was it a differently named cat

well there was the paper one.. earl and links

oh it was named Scribble

Scribble, Earl, and Links

sigh. one of these days I'll need to fire up Office 2000 and check the whole MSO agents gallery.

my favorite agent chars were merlin links and f1

I guess I've spent too much time with Links selected and don't remember many others

that is the one I always chose sat on the taskbar above the tray

controlling merlin with vb was fun

i remember

njsg: manpreetsingh80.github.io/clippyjs/demo

yay, I'm on the market for a new web hosting provider

on or in?

not only they raised the prices without warning, they are now deploying Clownflare craptchas

cause I would recommend afterburst

tho plain hosting or vps

to enter their customer service portal, they had ReCaptcha

now on top of that, they deployed Clownflare Turnstile

nsITobin: foreign providers sadly do not work for me, I need something I can pay in local currency

ok let me ask you this.. what are you hosting like how big is it?

nsITobin: it's just a personal website, a couple subdomains, and email accounts

ah email .. can't do anything about email

yeah, that's the biggest deal for me, and surprisingly many hosting plans do not even have email these days

(thaaaaanks Google)

yeah i didn't get an email with my new crappy spectrum account

ah well, ISPs also stopped doing the free email stuff decades ago here

CANTV was the last one here, and they just let it die circa 2018 or so

Alert Status

Our Ted Cruz troll may be making a new apperence

he just hit MCP forum and gitea

frg_Away:

so he must be making the rounds

that's reassuring

a googleusercontent rdns

send him some Nintendo Ninjas

they're at large killing emulators again

I'll be back.

Sorry I had to go scream at someone

not about what was in the chat

required a nick change

No good deed ever goes unpunished and all that

hopefully our friend will still be matched by existing rules? :-)