00:20:24 <nsITobin> Sompi: do you use debian or ubunto based distros?
00:21:33 <Sompi> I use Devuan for my server
00:21:46 <Sompi> http://sininenankka.dy.fi/kuvauppi/upload/fm4b4.jpg most of my ST-DOS testing rigs are now in one place
00:22:04 <nsITobin> so have you used these ubuntuzilla packages?
00:22:07 <Sompi> no
00:22:29 <Sompi> I stopped using Ubuntu after they went full retard with the user interface and Gnome 2 stopped existing
00:22:34 <nsITobin> Sompi: do not give me your location if you value that stuff
00:22:39 <nsITobin> cause ima steal it
00:22:39 <nsITobin> lol
00:22:45 <Sompi> :)
00:23:10 <nsITobin> tho that partical board desk thing is looking a bit worse for ware
00:23:16 <Sompi> Sadly that small oscilloscope doesn't work, some of its bakelite capacitors and resistors are exploded
00:23:54 <Sompi> It shouldn't be hard to fix if I only had the components
00:24:08 <nsITobin> Sompi: can you make it a broken oscillocope and get kickass broken graphics out of it like they used in Star Trek The Motion Picture or is it dead dead
00:25:24 <Sompi> Its trigger fires correctly and the beam moves from left to right, but the dot is huge and probably out of focus and always on the top border of the screen
00:25:25 <nsITobin> Sompi: the fuck you doing with early 90s aptivas
00:26:03 <Sompi> That one on the floor is a PC 300GL
00:26:08 <Sompi> The one on topof it is an Aptiva
00:26:28 <nsITobin> is that a win31 aptiva or win95
00:26:34 <Sompi> I think it is Win98
00:26:37 <nsITobin> it was best with Windows 3.1
00:26:56 <Sompi> But I installed OS/2 Warp 3.0 on it... probably too old OS for that computer
00:27:08 <Sompi> Originally it had Windows 98
00:27:20 <Sompi> I only use it for testing ST-DOS
00:27:24 <nsITobin> I always thought that case design would be awesome in IBM mainframe blue
00:27:37 <nsITobin> and white lettering
00:29:15 <Sompi> nsITobin: This is the newest thing to test http://sininenankka.dy.fi/leetos/netdisk.php
00:29:21 <Sompi> sadly most of those computers don't have ethernet
00:30:20 <nsITobin> you could get some cheap ass 10/100 cards off ebay i bet
00:30:26 <Sompi> even Doom can be played from cloud
00:30:28 <nsITobin> enough for an old system
00:31:48 <Sompi> those packet drivers for intel's new ethernet cards are crap
00:32:13 <nsITobin> fine just use a null seral modem
00:32:16 <nsITobin> lol
00:32:18 <Sompi> for some reason they are in the MS-DOS's proprietary driver format even though they are just normal TSRs
00:32:34 <Sompi> and they don't even seem to work
00:33:24 <Sompi> I wonder if those new ethernet cards are usually compatible with some old common card
00:34:37 <Sompi> they sure don't state it publicly anywhere
00:34:52 <Sompi> they just offer proprietary drivers
00:34:56 <Sompi> that don't even work
00:35:31 <Sompi> and they even completely stopped making DOS drivers for their cards in 2021
00:35:39 <nsITobin> that sucks
00:36:12 <nsITobin> i wonder how much it would cost to use common parts to just clone a good solid eathernet card
00:47:31 <Sompi> Proper DOS TSR packet drivers are a necessity for indie operating systems
00:47:40 <Sompi> because MS-DOS compatible TSR programs don't do any syscalls
00:47:52 <Sompi> They are just a piece of code that hooks to an interrupt handler
00:48:23 <Sompi> So they basically work with all operating systems as-is, all you need is to implement the MS-DOS compatible TSR loading routines
00:52:24 <nsITobin> interesting and yeah makes sense
19:44:05 <Sompi> even better if those routines are in the ROM chip of the ethernet card
19:44:16 <Sompi> and if they can be called from there
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