libera #seamonkey

7 Sep 2024

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• 00:20
  nsITobin
  Sompi: do you use debian or ubunto based distros?
• 00:21
  Sompi
  I use Devuan for my server
• 00:21
  Sompi
  sininenankka.dy.fi/kuvauppi/upload/fm4b4.jpg most of my ST-DOS testing rigs are now in one place
• 00:22
  nsITobin
  so have you used these ubuntuzilla packages?
• 00:22
  Sompi
  no
• 00:22
  Sompi
  I stopped using Ubuntu after they went full retard with the user interface and Gnome 2 stopped existing
• 00:22
  nsITobin
  Sompi: do not give me your location if you value that stuff
• 00:22
  nsITobin
  cause ima steal it
• 00:22
  nsITobin
  lol
• 00:22
  Sompi
  :)
• 00:23
  nsITobin
  tho that partical board desk thing is looking a bit worse for ware
• 00:23
  Sompi
  Sadly that small oscilloscope doesn't work, some of its bakelite capacitors and resistors are exploded
• 00:23
  Sompi
  It shouldn't be hard to fix if I only had the components
• 00:24
  nsITobin
  Sompi: can you make it a broken oscillocope and get kickass broken graphics out of it like they used in Star Trek The Motion Picture or is it dead dead
• 00:25
  Sompi
  Its trigger fires correctly and the beam moves from left to right, but the dot is huge and probably out of focus and always on the top border of the screen
• 00:25
  nsITobin
  Sompi: the fuck you doing with early 90s aptivas
• 00:26
  Sompi
  That one on the floor is a PC 300GL
• 00:26
  Sompi
  The one on topof it is an Aptiva
• 00:26
  nsITobin
  is that a win31 aptiva or win95
• 00:26
  Sompi
  I think it is Win98
• 00:26
  nsITobin
  it was best with Windows 3.1
• 00:26
  Sompi
  But I installed OS/2 Warp 3.0 on it... probably too old OS for that computer
• 00:27
  Sompi
  Originally it had Windows 98
• 00:27
  Sompi
  I only use it for testing ST-DOS
• 00:27
  nsITobin
  I always thought that case design would be awesome in IBM mainframe blue
• 00:27
  nsITobin
  and white lettering
• 00:29
  Sompi
  nsITobin: This is the newest thing to test sininenankka.dy.fi/leetos/netdisk.php
• 00:29
  Sompi
  sadly most of those computers don't have ethernet
• 00:30
  nsITobin
  you could get some cheap ass 10/100 cards off ebay i bet
• 00:30
  Sompi
  even Doom can be played from cloud
• 00:30
  nsITobin
  enough for an old system
• 00:31
  Sompi
  those packet drivers for intel's new ethernet cards are crap
• 00:32
  nsITobin
  fine just use a null seral modem
• 00:32
  nsITobin
  lol
• 00:32
  Sompi
  for some reason they are in the MS-DOS's proprietary driver format even though they are just normal TSRs
• 00:32
  Sompi
  and they don't even seem to work
• 00:33
  Sompi
  I wonder if those new ethernet cards are usually compatible with some old common card
• 00:34
  Sompi
  they sure don't state it publicly anywhere
• 00:34
  Sompi
  they just offer proprietary drivers
• 00:34
  Sompi
  that don't even work
• 00:35
  Sompi
  and they even completely stopped making DOS drivers for their cards in 2021
• 00:35
  nsITobin
  that sucks
• 00:36
  nsITobin
  i wonder how much it would cost to use common parts to just clone a good solid eathernet card
• 00:47
  Sompi
  Proper DOS TSR packet drivers are a necessity for indie operating systems
• 00:47
  Sompi
  because MS-DOS compatible TSR programs don't do any syscalls
• 00:47
  Sompi
  They are just a piece of code that hooks to an interrupt handler
• 00:48
  Sompi
  So they basically work with all operating systems as-is, all you need is to implement the MS-DOS compatible TSR loading routines
• 00:52
  nsITobin
  interesting and yeah makes sense
• 19:44
  Sompi
  even better if those routines are in the ROM chip of the ethernet card
• 19:44
  Sompi
  and if they can be called from there
• 23:03
  njsg
  ... Firefox now bundles an AI chatbot and has promoted advertising in the location bar drop-down?
• 23:22
  tomman
  theregister.com/2024/09/06/google_rust_c_code_language Rust! All! The! Things! (now with extra Google mandate!)