13:27:16 <frg_Away> hi nsITobin
13:31:01 <nsITobin> hello
13:47:13 <nsITobin> frg_Away: https://i.ibb.co/wYGfdGd/image.png I managed a history menu now all I need is a linux build and I can get the hell off edge finally
13:52:08 <frg_Away> shouldn't it be merged with the Go menu?
13:52:21 <frg_Away> or better Go merged in?
13:55:14 <nsITobin> That is what Firefox did but Firefox lost the ability to deal with session (current tab) navigation from the main menu and only has navi toolbar and context menu and neither accesses session history. SeaMonkey overall provides access to most functions via main menu, context menu, and toolbar I didn't wanna break that so I made the distinction
13:55:47 <nsITobin> Go for current session History for everything else
13:56:21 <nsITobin> that doesn't mean its the best way .. could do go menu with session history per normal and a places submenu
13:56:45 <nsITobin> for least amount of disruption to current workflows and muscle memory
13:56:51 <nsITobin> I just didn't have that consern
13:56:56 <nsITobin> at the time
13:58:13 <nsITobin> well scratch that right clicking on back and forward does
13:58:21 <nsITobin> but still that's the only way in Firefox
13:58:31 <nsITobin> if it is still true i haven
13:58:37 <nsITobin> 't checked in a few versions
13:59:38 <nsITobin> or have a pref that basically swaps out the functionality
13:59:58 <nsITobin> there are lots of ways to solve it
14:00:42 <nsITobin> another option is go full fx history menu and have session history and navigation as a submenu as well
14:02:03 <nsITobin> wish we had a polling mechism for things like this
14:02:41 <nsITobin> or an overbudgeted market research department lol
14:05:59 <nsITobin> the main point is frg_Away it works .. i didn't know if it would with the changes and placesui swapout.. I can do the patch any way you want if you guys want it
14:10:09 <frg_Away> nsITobin I noticed that back and Forward sometimes skips visits. Can't say I miss a bistory menu. Usually use the library for this when I need it and a bit concerned that it might impact menu performance. If Go is replaced with history I would be ok with it but the IanN_Away boss and maybe a few others should chime in. Something for a meeting maybe.
14:10:40 <nsITobin> frg_Away: session history does get janky when js starts faking it.. maybe that's it
14:11:38 <frg_Away> I am still in the process of aligning the places api with esr 60. Still ripping out sync api stuff so wouldn't do a patch before. And yes might be session history which fails here.
14:14:31 <nsITobin> so I suppose the patch for seamonkey proper would be .. Turn the Go menu into a places history menu
14:16:19 <nsITobin> well good thing about patches on mq is i can rebase them far simpler .. I do need to get these patches in version control though so they are just.. available and so I don't loose em
14:34:26 <nsITobin> frg_Away: so https://ibb.co/cD0GD65
14:37:05 <frg_Away> nsITobin for me yes. Would still need to b discussed.  I think Go and a separate History menu do not make sense
14:37:21 <nsITobin> it's nice to have options for implimentation you have Do nothing, The Firefox way, the Borealis way, and this extrapolated seamonkey way
14:40:20 <nsITobin> that History menu item should have an ellipse added and properly should say Manage History... but ellipse don't have to be translated merely propagated
14:53:11 <nsITobin> frg_Away: simple patch https://dpaste.org/4b0Rv
14:53:12 <nsITobin> lol
14:59:51 <frg_Away> best to file a  bug and ask IanN and maybe njsg for feedback.
15:13:33 <nsITobin> yeah i was just pasting a view of just how little it is.. kinda surprising
15:13:46 <nsITobin> it took me a week to work out how to do this originally
15:16:20 <frg_Away> question if we should rename the lables too but that is for later
15:19:25 <nsITobin> I avoided the issue ;)
15:21:06 <nsITobin> ah.. need this .. http://xr.thereisonlyxul.org/seamonkey-2.53/source/browser/base/content/browser.css#833
17:10:54 <nsITobin> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1913787
17:12:18 <nsITobin> ... boomarks
17:15:52 <nsITobin> looks like Open Web Location the textbox needs some styling to fix its height on windows
17:23:12 <frg_Away> nsITobin fixed up the bug
17:28:03 <nsITobin> yeah I am gonna have to just start drafting my bugs in a text editor.. i have this extremely annoying habit of editing things because what i read back ain't what my brain intended to write sorry if it generated a bunch of bugspam
17:30:15 <frg_Away> Because mozilla forked up bugzilla now need to do it in a different browser... And the new functionality if you can call iit this is just plain bd ui wise.
17:36:06 <nsITobin> Yeah
17:41:40 <nsITobin> ugh the only thing right with waterfox is it has tab style tabs.. it's just as otherwise annoying as edge is
18:17:31 <nsITobin> anyway https://i.ibb.co/vzmHX2c/image.png
18:19:04 <nsITobin> strange.. i can't recall the home button ever being disabled
18:19:09 <nsITobin> even in netscape
18:19:52 <nsITobin> maybe it was intended to be disabled when you are AT your desinated home page and it became irrelevant with tab browsing and being able to set multiple pages to open?
18:20:39 <nsITobin> perhaps a never done kiosk mode where home is disabled but that seems silly given HOME is likely a place you always wanna be able to navigate to on a kiosk
18:21:06 <nsITobin> so why is there a disabled state lol
22:43:34 <nsITobin> tomman: greetings
22:44:36 <tomman> sup~
22:44:41 <tomman> configuring a new routerbox here
22:46:55 <nsITobin> rooterbaux?
22:47:08 <nsITobin> i dare you to set its hostname to that
22:47:08 <tomman> time to reboot again, brb~
22:50:49 <njsg> "spof" for hostname? :-P
22:50:55 <njsg> depends on the network topology, of course
22:58:28 <nsITobin> hope he didn't get misrouted on his way back njsg
22:59:43 <njsg> well, just in case, better make sure nobody replaced sendmail with the Sun-provided build, or he might not be able to e-mail us if he's more than 500 miles away
23:04:36 <nsITobin> njsg: can I just concatonate hg patchfiles?
23:05:08 <nsITobin> to make a super-patch but they still include all the commits as seperate items
23:09:01 <nsITobin> he made it!
23:09:09 <nsITobin> welcome back tomman are you routing well now?
23:09:48 <tomman> done some cable management~
23:10:20 <tomman> yep~
23:10:26 <tomman> upgrading from a Compaq from year 2000 to a Dell SFF from year 2014 really makes a difference... somehow :D
23:10:27 <tomman> at least I can now use the 100Mbit I'm paying for!
23:11:51 <njsg> hopefully it wasn't like NORDUnet which had one route down for maintenance and had the other fail :-P (bad luck likes to strike in interesting configurations, I guess?)
23:12:39 <tomman> OK, I could USE it
23:12:44 <tomman> ...at a very high CPU usage
23:12:47 <tomman> especially on the uplink
23:13:05 <tomman> and I ran out of CPU before maxing the uplink!
23:13:17 <njsg> re: patches, no idea, it looks like kind of easy, up until it's about keeping the commits still separate, the only thing that occurs to me is if some e-mail bundling feature allows grouping more than one commit in the output