nsITobin: I suppose there's value for some repetition like that *if* it really is compatible

if bad UA checks weren't a thing, SeaMonkey could advertise what the current Firefox level is in term of most CSS and JS features

but then a few sites will insist in telling you how you're using OUTDATED DANGEROUS DETOUR FORK IN ROAD AHEAD

(that's not a reference to forking, but rather to the Tex Avery scene)

Hey, guys, back when 'we' used the Mozilla server for IRC, there was a link you could click to see ant history of the IRC Chn. The link was in the IRC 'page header'.

Is there a similar IRC History link for this iibera.chat IRC chn??

I asked a question about 20 hours ago but there had been no response by the time I logged off so was just wanting to check the 'Logs'.

TIA

Maniel: yes

link might be in meeting notes, not sure

not able to look for it locally now, sorry

and yes, there were comments re: UA string

njsg: Thanks .... so now I just need to know what the stock standard UA string is, i.e. does it include a Firefox version as STANDARD??

I don't know right away what the default is but according to Tobin it does, i.e. it's "SeaMonkey and advertise Firefox compatibility"

njsg: Ah!! That was what 'The Other Guy' was suggesting was now Standard. Bummer!! Don't you just hate being shoot down in flames! ;-)

Hai

hai frg_

nsobin greetings

nsITobin greetings

hello jess

hello!

meow?

make && make install

... this isn't my terminal.

... or is it?

make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop.

right this is seamonkey.. mozmake -f client.mk

and then I said it was all because of tonymec

nsITobin all mach now as in mach build

hello nsITobin it seems I pop out of nowhere just half a sec before you utter my name. What was because of me?

I tink he wanted to string you up

it's fun, on occasion tonymec|away

also tend to do that when I am in a good mood and productive

After moving laptops here, I'm now facing the sad facts

I have no room for my trusty XP box with EOL'd SM 2.49 for email

so I need to do what I've been avoiding all these years: move my email to one of my newer laptops

3 accounts in total, plus a defunct one

any help? haven't moved email anything between installs since circa 2014 or so

the nss db migration

also

you will want to go through each server in account settings and make sure the directories are pointed to the correct locations.. esr52 stored absolute paths created from reletive paths for mailbox location .. i think newer mailnews dropped this but be mindful of it

tomman: does that halp?

let me describe that old setup

it actually used to be a "shared Windows/Linux email setup" with the email inboxes actually located on a shared partition

of course paths are different between each OS, but they're not the standard Mozilla paths

oh fuck

the inboxes but not the profile

yeah good luck

now, I would be recreating the account info from scratch on the new setup, it would be just matter of copying and replacing the mailbox files, right?

not for imap accounts

these are all POP3

well you can experiment with a frankenmailbox without risking your original profile so give it a shot

one GMail, one Outlook (actually Hotmail), and another from my webhosting

however

I am not moving profiles, thankfully

do it on same version

don't try to upgrade AND frankenmangle at the same time

ha, the mailboxes are in 2.49.5, I'm on 2.53.18

recomposit the mailboxes BACK into a standard profile.. then upgrade that profile ye?

did the mailbox format changed between .49 and .53?

dunno

depends how much got backported

I would recomposite the profile back into its self.. on dot 49 then upgrade that profile through whatever .53 for nss dbm to sqlite to latest.. it should work

there are two problems with that

1) the profile is on Windows XP, which can't run anything past .49

and your point?

2) the profile include Windows-specific paths, and I do not have other newer Windows setups handy

that's what you get when you neglect migrations for a decade :D

get the mailboxes back into the profile with reletive paths then take that profile and copy it to linux .49 resolve the issues there then upgrade it

or just burn it

and start over

now I need to recall how in the hell I did that

let's first take a look at the stuff outside the standard locations

my profile lives at %PROFILE%

and my email lives at E:\Thunderbird\whatever\Mail\<server name>\

and <server name>\ contains... two sets of files: one with .msf extension and another without extension at all

plus msgFilterRules.dat and popstate.dat

both that ancient Linux and Windows setup saw the same content

OK, let's try something then

I'll recreate my least used account here, and see what it creates

rust has a linter called "clippy"?

tomman: are any of the paths outside prefs.js? if not you could try grepping that and see if it's easy to mass-replace

Experiment: successful

created the mail account on this profile

ensured the server settings were correct

then shutdown SeaMonkey, copied mailbox files from old Windows setup to new profile maildir, overwritting existing files

start SeaMonkey again, email is there.

Just As Planned™

the spamfilters will need retraining, but no biggie

which means I'll migrate my GMail and Hotmail accounts, and I can finally retire that old box :)

And done migrating about 20 years of emails~

even managed to recover my address book (abook.mab)

done, and done.

the more things change, the more things stay the same

and that's GOOD.

One final tweak

how do I change date/time format displayed on Mail&News?

kb.mozillazine.org/Date_display_format oh, so indeed it's locale-specific, even on Linux

and of course Debian uses some stupid abbreviated date formats (without leading zeroes) for es_VE

so what I want is this: support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customize-date-time-formats-thunderbird

do we support that yet?

a problem is I think the localization now comes via some c++ library that uses a different corpus for regional settings, instead of the C library

I don't recall what is exactly available in SeaMonkey, I think I recall buc knowing something about this?

the library is libicu I think icu.unicode.org

I still haven't checked how to customize the CDLR the same way one can customize the GNU C library locale definition

in glibc it's a text file, which one can easily hack to regenerate the locale with different settings; there are probably more elegant ways for that, though