Is it possible to hide the bottom bar (the one with the browser, mail etc). Also How would I open chatzilla and the Address book in tabs in Seamonkey mail.

the latest site I've seen blocking people via akamai is... support.microsoft.com

granted, I had a UA override, but still...

if The_brock comes back tell em .. Window Menu also lists the same components as the component bar on the status bar

The_brock wanted it in tabs :-\

then the_brock needs to write an extension

;)

njsg: do you believe Mozilla created the xul extensibility in an effort to harvist work from unwitting extension devs and once it basically dried up they started defining what extensions should be able to do

when did "Mozilla" the concept turn completely top-down?

2005, 2008, 2013?

bloop

I should build a device with TOS rocker switches in it that I can program to do actions

like launch commands

sure it could be made of anything but why not TOS rocker switches

plapp

from a PDF: "A good way to make sure your documents are really legible is to test your documents on several browsers."

"works on Chrome, Edge, Opera, Brave, and the browser on my Android cellphone which is likely to be Chrome"

you should test chromium desktop and mobile, windows and linux, test firefox desktop and mobile, and test UXP/SM if it works in all of those you can assume it works in almost anything

safari and apple if you care

i do not

"Apple is holding back the progress of web standards", webdevs say

because they hate Safari because it's not Chrome

sorry I think you said "Microsoft is holding back the progress of web standards" and then remembered the solution put forth was to become chrome

it worked before

it may happen again

safari may rebase on chromium

tomman: I think there are spelling errors in that

haha, Apple defecting to Google... well, Stranger Things have happened indeed

I seriously want to split http into web:// and app:// protocols

tomman: did you mean?: "works on konqueror, konqueror, konqueror, konqueror and the browser on my Andoid cellphone which is likely to be Konqueror"

but... I have my doubts on that one, and I'm pretty much sure the EU will try to put a stop to that

real konquorer or fake

but then 10 years ago nobody would have imagined that MS would nuke IE and replace it with "Chrome with 200% extra spyware"

cause real khtml was pretty good .. it is why everyone stole it

ContributorTobin: the KDE one

not to be confused with conqueror

the xulrunner-based Emacs-style gecko browser

tomman: because these are no longer specific corperate entities but a cartel of corperate power structures absuing the infrastructure of their previous incarnations to prevent anyone else from doing anything similar unless they agree with it

what was so great about khtml compared to gecko? Or is this really just "one or two big corporations chose khtml"?

njsg: at the time? nothing. Mozilla was the superior engine and platform choice.. someone decided Mozilla wasn't allowed to be a superior engine and platform and i think it was largely the W3C actually which contributed to Mozilla's 180 and helping found whatwg

and google was the funding and the means to do it

Mozilla sold out to google long ago and tHAT is why the world is fucked,,

it all goes back to Google and people giving up their shit for less

Mozilla is the reason why Trident failed in the end but also because they cooperated with google in good faith re-enforced with search partnerships and safe browsing integrations

The biggest problem with Gecko was embedding on non-Mozilla products

tomman: at gecko 1.9.x embedding was possible fairly easily on mac windows and linux

I can't recall the early history of KHTML, but at some point they decided that making the engine was better if it wasn't tightly coupled to KDE or even Qt

then Apple forked it and made WebKit

then Google forked it again and OMG

its also under a less restrictive license than Mozilla

maybe what Gecko needed was a fork where embedding was the #1 goal

that is why microsoft agreed to it

ah well, licensing is another can of worms

because Microsoft does NOT have to contribute back

no one does

welcome to FOSS in the corporate world, indeed

this is why the PlayStation uses a FreeBSD kernel

Well I understand why GPL with LGPL is a thing now.. tho i still don't agree that shared code should assimilate all other code

but covered code should always be shared

so MPL

but MPL cannot be made into a propritary product where enhancements can be kept internal if it is existing covered code

and that is why Mozilla was not a good target for microsoft google and apple despite already being there

bugzilla.mozilla.org/1897608 I forgot Mozilla has a manifesto

...and apparently it needs rework

I seriously don't get how chromium is effectively mit while khtml is lgpl

HOW can a codebase go from gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-3.0.html to chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/LICENSE

there is no LGPL license attached to chromium sources in their license declairations

has ALL of chromium been rewritten from html/webkit?

tg hur5eildh tgujikrsdhgraed

THAT'S WHY MOZILLA..

Excuse me.

Rust licenses.

I am pissed. Cya later on.