06:16:23 <CaptainTobin> welp.. happy birthday to me since it is after midnight
15:25:08 <CaptainTobin> hello frg_Away
15:25:31 <frg_Away> CaptainTobin happy birdsday
15:25:56 <CaptainTobin> thank you
15:26:26 <frg_Away> I know it is birth but it is for the birds :)
15:27:31 <CaptainTobin> just another day for the most part, tho I consider it a holy day of me.. but that is JUST me.. now if I could get some other people to agree.. Well i'd have a cult so never mind that.. I have an add-ons site to do.
15:28:46 <CaptainTobin> that old cavendish sidebar menu is weird how it .. exists
15:29:08 <frg_Away> CaptainTobin waiting for IanN_Away to do the beta branched. Working on my wip branch. Need to get it to 68
15:29:36 <CaptainTobin> frg_Away: add xp support and invite fedor LOL
15:29:57 <CaptainTobin> no seriously this is outstanding news
15:30:35 <frg_Away> didn't check if it even still compiles with VS2017
15:30:55 <frg_Away> Using VS2019 and clang
15:31:31 <CaptainTobin> there is no benefit to vs2017 over newer versions.. 2015 ... sure but that ship can sail, idc anymore about vs2015 lol
15:31:39 <frg_Away> VS2019 compiles the x86 build but it crahes pretyy fast when memory becomes an issue.
15:32:07 <CaptainTobin> after biginit?
15:32:16 <CaptainTobin> err
15:32:17 <CaptainTobin> int
15:32:40 <frg_Away> VS2ß15 is missing support for some later c++ standards.
15:32:43 <CaptainTobin> or just the web is too bloated for such a small address space
15:33:26 <frg_Away> CaptainToBin. No needed to switch the relase builds to clnag some time ago. Was able to reproduce it playing some media files. Has been awhile.
15:33:49 <frg_Away> msvc and x64 are peachy. Just not x86
15:33:58 <CaptainTobin> to be expected
15:34:15 <CaptainTobin> given microsoft and mozilla's directed direction they directed it to be directed to.. which is not 32bit
15:34:48 <frg_Away> Well I can understand this as discussed in the last meeting.
15:37:47 <CaptainTobin> btw where is the seamonkey website repo.. cause the one on hgmo is like dead
15:40:05 <frg_Away> https://foss.heptapod.net/seamonkey/website
15:40:06 <frg_Away> https://gitlab.com/seamonkey-project/website
15:40:17 <frg_Away> Same level. We might kick gitlab later
15:40:24 <CaptainTobin> I have two enhancements .. to the breadcrumb bar one is a css background to replace the image bg and two is to set the height so page navigating is more consistant with having it partly be collapsed then be breadcrubs (or a menu bar on my add-ons site layout)
15:40:52 <CaptainTobin> having it not be partly collapsed*
15:41:13 <CaptainTobin> heptapod is hg right?
15:42:59 <frg_Away> Prefer you open a bug and get it reviewed, Unfortunately mozilla enhanced bugzilla so you need another borwser. Not that the "enhanced" version is faster or better...
15:43:11 <frg_Away> heptapod is hg
15:43:29 <CaptainTobin> oh yeah.. BUGS lol
15:44:01 <CaptainTobin> I actually forgot about bugzilla being relevant just now
15:45:00 <CaptainTobin> The bugzilla way tho has the advatage of not tying the developer to a specific repo tech as long as they can generate an applicable patch file
15:46:39 <CaptainTobin> so say.. i use git-cinnabar do my stuff then export the patch files attach em to a bugzilla bug and whomever applies em applies em .. it is a very good system.
15:47:25 <CaptainTobin> frg_Away: speaking of, I assume you will loose bugzilla as well?
15:47:37 <frg_Away> probably
15:49:17 <CaptainTobin> I am also guessing bugzilla by now is a massive glued together mostrsity of modern js and ancient perl?
15:54:03 <CaptainTobin> what a strange site generator
15:54:15 <CaptainTobin> have to investigate how it works at some point
16:02:31 <CaptainTobin> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1904084
16:02:57 <CaptainTobin> christ up to 19XXXXX
16:04:49 <CaptainTobin> well i sure am glad EMAIL reported this bug
16:05:06 <CaptainTobin> ffs mozilla.. why are you extrapolating names from email addresses when the name is set.
16:08:12 <CaptainTobin> there changed my email to tobin⊙bc .. now it was reported by tobin
16:08:15 <CaptainTobin> lowercase
16:41:04 <njsg> I think that has been default behaviour with bugzilla for some time now
16:42:16 <njsg> not sure when did it appear, but I remember noticing that
16:42:22 <njsg> (or has it been already like that before?)
16:45:07 <njsg> CaptainTobin: also happy birthday
16:48:22 <CaptainTobin> ah thank you njsg
16:48:36 <CaptainTobin> okay seamonkey's design is weird
16:48:40 <CaptainTobin> even for mozilla html
17:15:53 <CaptainTobin> I think I have it now
17:21:18 <CaptainTobin> frg_Away: why does it need to be in an hg repo to build?
17:21:58 <frg_Away> It shouldn't
17:27:52 <CaptainTobin> mattatobin⊙nbc LINUX /binoc/workstation/projects/newcode/website-branch-default
17:27:52 <CaptainTobin> $ ./bin/build
17:27:52 <CaptainTobin> abort: no repository found in '/binoc/workstation/projects/newcode/website-branch-default' (.hg not found)
17:27:52 <CaptainTobin> Could not copy (src/.htaccess to dest/.htaccess) : No such file or directory
17:29:11 <frg_Away> CaptainTobin ah you mean the website? Black magic. ewong and IanN_Away are the masters. Do you want to test your patch?
17:30:32 <CaptainTobin> well i did it in devtools and i was gonna create a patch but i also wanna see how this works..
17:31:53 <CaptainTobin> perl-XML-XPath is installed.. plugin error XML.Xpath plugin not found
17:42:50 <CaptainTobin> well I am at an impass
17:42:52 <CaptainTobin> empass
17:46:14 <CaptainTobin> well a partal one
17:47:03 <frg_Away> if you have a patch I can push it to staging
17:47:06 <CaptainTobin> i don't know how the templating system works so all i can do is a basic css patch .. devtools testing suggest it will make the hight consistant across pages but it will be just the blue ocean on the front page lol
17:47:18 <CaptainTobin> yeah I am gonna generate it and attach it to the bug
17:47:35 <frg_Away> https://staging.seamonkey-project.org/
17:51:26 <CaptainTobin> frg_Away: how do i get hg to give me a diff including the removed file
17:51:52 <frg_Away> hg qnew -D your patchname.patch
17:52:23 <frg_Away> Enable mercurial queues
17:52:46 <frg_Away> hg qpush hg qpop are your friend then.
17:52:57 <frg_Away> x times easier than git
17:53:07 <CaptainTobin> hold on.. i have to figure out how to set a username
17:54:14 <CaptainTobin> ok where is the patch file?
17:54:19 <CaptainTobin> in the .hg dir?
17:54:27 <frg_Away> There is a hgrc in .hg. Just edit it. Or pick the global hgrc
17:54:44 <frg_Away> .hg/patches
17:54:47 <CaptainTobin> right
17:55:25 <CaptainTobin> it is still not tracking that I deleted a file
17:55:44 <CaptainTobin> do I have to commit it to get it to?
17:55:46 <frg_Away> applied patches are in status all patches in series.
17:56:06 <frg_Away> I usually use thg to delet ot. Let me check
17:57:21 <CaptainTobin> ok i do like that
17:58:10 <frg_Away>  hg forget "New Text Document.txt"
17:59:04 <frg_Away> Not sure if it is deleted then. maybe hg remove
17:59:23 <frg_Away> hg remove --force "New Text Document.txt"
18:00:56 <frg_Away> Btw, The series file can be edited. Just don't do it in the area of applied patches. This will not end well usually. :)
18:07:48 <CaptainTobin> frg_Away: attached a patch to the bug
18:12:28 <CaptainTobin> sooner or later I will have to go back to the orginal cavendish and get the styling and markup to use that sidebar menu to the same extent the mozilla mainsite did
18:15:52 <frg_Away> CaptainTobin missing descriptin date and name. I cann add them if you want
18:16:37 <CaptainTobin> Yeah .. I used to have a gui that did this for hg back in the day.. cli is terrible lol
18:17:23 <CaptainTobin> I just need more experience with it
18:18:27 <frg_Away> CaptainTobin install tortoise hg
18:21:24 <frg_Away> munch time. Will check the patch afterwards
18:22:39 <CaptainTobin> thank you frg_Away
18:24:19 <frg_Away> I will use the email from patch in Bug 1858246
18:27:11 <CaptainTobin> Matt A. Tobin <email⊙mc>
18:28:02 <frg_Away> jupp
18:28:09 <CaptainTobin> tortoisehg, qt based
18:28:14 <CaptainTobin> eh
18:28:18 <CaptainTobin> it will do the jorb
18:29:12 <frg_Away> etter under Windows but does integrate in gnome.
18:29:32 <CaptainTobin> that would be great if I used gnome.. or nautilus
18:29:36 <frg_Away> Tortoise hg Total Commander and Notepad++ is all I need :)
18:29:40 <CaptainTobin> Openbox and Nemo
18:29:52 <CaptainTobin> but I am fine with not having "shell integration"
18:30:56 <CaptainTobin> frg_Away: funny you mention notepad++
18:31:43 <CaptainTobin> there is a qt effort to create a clone.. it looks the part but as a proof of concept it lacks features beyond basic notepad .. but because there is no superior text editor for linux.. notepad++ on wine even registered as the default text editor
18:35:53 <CaptainTobin> frg_Away: this thing is from 2006
18:35:55 <CaptainTobin> my god
18:36:22 <frg_Away> 2024 https://tortoisehg.bitbucket.io/download/
18:36:30 <CaptainTobin> no i mean the website
18:36:32 <CaptainTobin> software
18:36:34 <CaptainTobin> generator
18:37:39 <frg_Away> was a good year :)
18:37:56 <CaptainTobin> true
18:38:50 <guest_> fr_away: LOL both websites foss.heptapod.net and gitlab.com do not work in SM 2.53.18.2
18:39:09 <CaptainTobin> the hell
18:49:49 <frg_Away> munch time for real now
18:54:21 <CaptainTobin> i am heading out to the store anyway will be back soon
20:03:59 <njsg> CaptainTobin: "there is no superior text editor for linux" something something Emacs vim :-P
20:04:42 <njsg> something [waves license from Caldera] vi
20:46:49 <andr01d> When I save complete website in seamonkey, it does save the accompanying image files, but the html continues to link to the original web images. Anyone know a workaround?
20:47:36 <andr01d> I guess I'm headed for curl or wget...
20:50:27 <njsg> andr01d: link as in what you get when you click on it?
20:51:08 <andr01d> yes, the saved html still has links to the web, not to the locally saved files
20:51:28 <njsg> I'd expect it to adjust the img src, now anchor targets... sounds like something that might have a bug for it, but I don't think I've ever considered whether these would be changed
20:52:25 <andr01d> Mozilla support says the links should be changed, but maybe this doesn't apply to seamonkey:
20:52:26 <andr01d> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-save-web-page
20:52:40 <andr01d> I'm just going to use wget -r...
20:55:17 <andr01d> Errg, It's a craigslist ad for a car I bought yesterday, now the original is offline 8-/ I guess I'll have to be happy with the saved version that was still open in the browser...
21:32:52 <CaptainTobin> Hi
21:32:56 <CaptainTobin> I have returned.
21:34:36 <CaptainTobin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0nxHMAV5wI
21:34:43 <CaptainTobin> Songs to Test By.
21:48:35 <frg_Away> CaptainTobin: Use reload https://staging.seamonkey-project.org/                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           ...
21:48:37 <frg_Away> ...
21:50:09 <frg_Away>  production seems a bit higher
21:51:38 <CaptainTobin> perfect on Seamonkey.. a pixel too high on chromium.. par for the course. Are you ok with it?
21:51:46 <CaptainTobin> or do you want me to futz some more on it?
21:52:57 <frg_Away> I am ok with it. Waiting for IanN_Away and if he is ok too I r+ the patch and merge it to production. Thanks.
21:53:09 <CaptainTobin> fun!
21:54:26 <frg_Away> nighty night
21:54:31 <CaptainTobin> rest well
22:35:56 <njsg> in production I get the feeling it has the same space on top and botton, staging appears to have more on top than bottom
22:36:14 <njsg> might be because of some minimum font size setting, but still I wonder why the difference
22:37:14 <CaptainTobin> verdana has different metrics vs most sans fonts
22:37:26 <CaptainTobin> its why I like it its wider
22:39:08 <CaptainTobin> you're right njsg
22:39:53 <CaptainTobin> its the fact the page is designed for verdana and by default it was using Noto Sans on here.. which is more like arial's protortions
22:40:23 <CaptainTobin> I should append the patch to add Deja Vu Sans (if installed) to it and knock it down one px
22:40:47 <CaptainTobin> or better yet..
22:41:12 <CaptainTobin> I should file a new bug to add Deja Vu Sans in front of Verdana and Sans and make it block this bug
22:41:16 <njsg> maybe min-height instead height?
22:41:22 <njsg> s@instead@& of@
22:41:28 <CaptainTobin> height has to be specified for min and max to work
22:41:30 <CaptainTobin> properly
22:41:43 <CaptainTobin> unless that has been fixed and i never noticed
22:42:05 <CaptainTobin> let me try min-height instead of max-height
22:42:25 <njsg> hm, are you sure about that? I think min-height works
22:44:49 <CaptainTobin> i am sure a long time at some point it was true
22:48:31 <CaptainTobin> njsg: you are on windows right can you get me a screenshot of what you see on staging and production?
22:49:58 <njsg> no, GNU/Linux right now
22:50:11 <njsg> I usually just have an easier testing evironment that's Windows NT
22:53:48 <njsg> CaptainTobin: now is there a good way to set "same height as text" that's not #breadcrumbs::before{content:" "}
22:54:09 <njsg> where " " is the non-breaking space? I can't even copy that...
22:54:30 <CaptainTobin> well normally I'd fix this by setting margin on an inner container of the bar but this bar is template controlled and I don't know how the template works
22:54:49 <CaptainTobin> using padding from outside affects height
22:54:56 <CaptainTobin> where as margin from inside shouldn't
22:56:23 <CaptainTobin> also zoomed scrollbars are zoomed
22:56:39 <CaptainTobin> I need a windows freak
22:56:47 <CaptainTobin> actually not a freak, someone helpful
23:00:02 <njsg> https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/Iv50WTTYHQTJJ4ShjYLdGRABPJNzhCjBEJrqUY3l-ug.jpg
23:00:25 <njsg> (not a screenshot, well, a screenshot, but not of the site, should have made that clear, sorry)
23:08:30 <njsg> well content:"\00A0" produces the same for :before, but this also adds a space
23:08:40 <njsg> what's the height equivalent of 1em?
23:19:02 <njsg> CaptainTobin: so far from my testing what I think looks better (in the CSS) so far might be changing to min-height and perhaps set that to 1.25em
23:20:12 <njsg> now 1.25em seems to match the line-height here, but no idea if that will be similar elsewhere or if it's something based on my font settings
23:20:24 <njsg> either way, changing height to min-height is probably a good idea
23:27:04 <CaptainTobin> its gonna be based on font settings
23:28:23 <CaptainTobin> it needs a dejavu webfont or someone needs to pay microsoft for a license for verdana
23:28:33 <CaptainTobin> that would resolve everything across the board
23:29:00 <CaptainTobin> I am gonna have to give it some more thought it seems
23:29:13 <CaptainTobin> else learn how to make this generate so i can test properly
23:58:13 <CaptainTobin> njsg: its ttree bitching about plugin error XML.XPath plugin not found
23:58:22 <CaptainTobin> but i have the perl packages
23:58:24 <CaptainTobin> installed
23:58:27 <CaptainTobin> so i don't get it