welp.. happy birthday to me since it is after midnight

hello frg_Away

CaptainTobin happy birdsday

thank you

I know it is birth but it is for the birds :)

just another day for the most part, tho I consider it a holy day of me.. but that is JUST me.. now if I could get some other people to agree.. Well i'd have a cult so never mind that.. I have an add-ons site to do.

that old cavendish sidebar menu is weird how it .. exists

CaptainTobin waiting for IanN_Away to do the beta branched. Working on my wip branch. Need to get it to 68

frg_Away: add xp support and invite fedor LOL

no seriously this is outstanding news

didn't check if it even still compiles with VS2017

Using VS2019 and clang

there is no benefit to vs2017 over newer versions.. 2015 ... sure but that ship can sail, idc anymore about vs2015 lol

VS2019 compiles the x86 build but it crahes pretyy fast when memory becomes an issue.

after biginit?

err

int

VS2ß15 is missing support for some later c++ standards.

or just the web is too bloated for such a small address space

CaptainToBin. No needed to switch the relase builds to clnag some time ago. Was able to reproduce it playing some media files. Has been awhile.

msvc and x64 are peachy. Just not x86

to be expected

given microsoft and mozilla's directed direction they directed it to be directed to.. which is not 32bit

Well I can understand this as discussed in the last meeting.

btw where is the seamonkey website repo.. cause the one on hgmo is like dead

Same level. We might kick gitlab later

I have two enhancements .. to the breadcrumb bar one is a css background to replace the image bg and two is to set the height so page navigating is more consistant with having it partly be collapsed then be breadcrubs (or a menu bar on my add-ons site layout)

having it not be partly collapsed*

heptapod is hg right?

Prefer you open a bug and get it reviewed, Unfortunately mozilla enhanced bugzilla so you need another borwser. Not that the "enhanced" version is faster or better...

heptapod is hg

oh yeah.. BUGS lol

I actually forgot about bugzilla being relevant just now

The bugzilla way tho has the advatage of not tying the developer to a specific repo tech as long as they can generate an applicable patch file

so say.. i use git-cinnabar do my stuff then export the patch files attach em to a bugzilla bug and whomever applies em applies em .. it is a very good system.

frg_Away: speaking of, I assume you will loose bugzilla as well?

probably

I am also guessing bugzilla by now is a massive glued together mostrsity of modern js and ancient perl?

what a strange site generator

have to investigate how it works at some point

christ up to 19XXXXX

well i sure am glad EMAIL reported this bug

ffs mozilla.. why are you extrapolating names from email addresses when the name is set.

there changed my email to tobin⊙bc .. now it was reported by tobin

lowercase

I think that has been default behaviour with bugzilla for some time now

not sure when did it appear, but I remember noticing that

(or has it been already like that before?)

CaptainTobin: also happy birthday

ah thank you njsg

okay seamonkey's design is weird

even for mozilla html

I think I have it now

frg_Away: why does it need to be in an hg repo to build?

It shouldn't

mattatobin⊙nbc LINUX /binoc/workstation/projects/newcode/website-branch-default

$ ./bin/build

abort: no repository found in '/binoc/workstation/projects/newcode/website-branch-default' (.hg not found)

Could not copy (src/.htaccess to dest/.htaccess) : No such file or directory

CaptainTobin ah you mean the website? Black magic. ewong and IanN_Away are the masters. Do you want to test your patch?

well i did it in devtools and i was gonna create a patch but i also wanna see how this works..

perl-XML-XPath is installed.. plugin error XML.Xpath plugin not found

well I am at an impass

empass

well a partal one

if you have a patch I can push it to staging

i don't know how the templating system works so all i can do is a basic css patch .. devtools testing suggest it will make the hight consistant across pages but it will be just the blue ocean on the front page lol

yeah I am gonna generate it and attach it to the bug

frg_Away: how do i get hg to give me a diff including the removed file

hg qnew -D your patchname.patch

Enable mercurial queues

hg qpush hg qpop are your friend then.

x times easier than git

hold on.. i have to figure out how to set a username

ok where is the patch file?

in the .hg dir?

There is a hgrc in .hg. Just edit it. Or pick the global hgrc

.hg/patches

right

it is still not tracking that I deleted a file

do I have to commit it to get it to?

applied patches are in status all patches in series.

I usually use thg to delet ot. Let me check

ok i do like that

hg forget "New Text Document.txt"

Not sure if it is deleted then. maybe hg remove

hg remove --force "New Text Document.txt"

Btw, The series file can be edited. Just don't do it in the area of applied patches. This will not end well usually. :)

frg_Away: attached a patch to the bug

sooner or later I will have to go back to the orginal cavendish and get the styling and markup to use that sidebar menu to the same extent the mozilla mainsite did

CaptainTobin missing descriptin date and name. I cann add them if you want

Yeah .. I used to have a gui that did this for hg back in the day.. cli is terrible lol

I just need more experience with it

CaptainTobin install tortoise hg

munch time. Will check the patch afterwards

thank you frg_Away

I will use the email from patch in Bug 1858246

Matt A. Tobin <email⊙mc>

jupp

tortoisehg, qt based

eh

it will do the jorb

etter under Windows but does integrate in gnome.

that would be great if I used gnome.. or nautilus

Tortoise hg Total Commander and Notepad++ is all I need :)

Openbox and Nemo

but I am fine with not having "shell integration"

frg_Away: funny you mention notepad++

there is a qt effort to create a clone.. it looks the part but as a proof of concept it lacks features beyond basic notepad .. but because there is no superior text editor for linux.. notepad++ on wine even registered as the default text editor

frg_Away: this thing is from 2006

my god

2024 tortoisehg.bitbucket.io/download

no i mean the website

software

generator

was a good year :)

true

fr_away: LOL both websites foss.heptapod.net and gitlab.com do not work in SM 2.53.18.2

the hell

munch time for real now

i am heading out to the store anyway will be back soon

CaptainTobin: "there is no superior text editor for linux" something something Emacs vim :-P

something [waves license from Caldera] vi

When I save complete website in seamonkey, it does save the accompanying image files, but the html continues to link to the original web images. Anyone know a workaround?

I guess I'm headed for curl or wget...

andr01d: link as in what you get when you click on it?

yes, the saved html still has links to the web, not to the locally saved files

I'd expect it to adjust the img src, now anchor targets... sounds like something that might have a bug for it, but I don't think I've ever considered whether these would be changed

Mozilla support says the links should be changed, but maybe this doesn't apply to seamonkey:

I'm just going to use wget -r...

Errg, It's a craigslist ad for a car I bought yesterday, now the original is offline 8-/ I guess I'll have to be happy with the saved version that was still open in the browser...

Hi

I have returned.

Songs to Test By.

CaptainTobin: Use reload staging.seamonkey-project.org ...

...

production seems a bit higher

perfect on Seamonkey.. a pixel too high on chromium.. par for the course. Are you ok with it?

or do you want me to futz some more on it?

I am ok with it. Waiting for IanN_Away and if he is ok too I r+ the patch and merge it to production. Thanks.

fun!

nighty night

rest well

in production I get the feeling it has the same space on top and botton, staging appears to have more on top than bottom

might be because of some minimum font size setting, but still I wonder why the difference

verdana has different metrics vs most sans fonts

its why I like it its wider

you're right njsg

its the fact the page is designed for verdana and by default it was using Noto Sans on here.. which is more like arial's protortions

I should append the patch to add Deja Vu Sans (if installed) to it and knock it down one px

or better yet..

I should file a new bug to add Deja Vu Sans in front of Verdana and Sans and make it block this bug

maybe min-height instead height?

s@instead@& of@

height has to be specified for min and max to work

properly

unless that has been fixed and i never noticed

let me try min-height instead of max-height

hm, are you sure about that? I think min-height works

i am sure a long time at some point it was true

njsg: you are on windows right can you get me a screenshot of what you see on staging and production?

no, GNU/Linux right now

I usually just have an easier testing evironment that's Windows NT

CaptainTobin: now is there a good way to set "same height as text" that's not #breadcrumbs::before{content:" "}

where " " is the non-breaking space? I can't even copy that...

well normally I'd fix this by setting margin on an inner container of the bar but this bar is template controlled and I don't know how the template works

using padding from outside affects height

where as margin from inside shouldn't

also zoomed scrollbars are zoomed

I need a windows freak

actually not a freak, someone helpful

(not a screenshot, well, a screenshot, but not of the site, should have made that clear, sorry)

well content:"\00A0" produces the same for :before, but this also adds a space

what's the height equivalent of 1em?

CaptainTobin: so far from my testing what I think looks better (in the CSS) so far might be changing to min-height and perhaps set that to 1.25em

now 1.25em seems to match the line-height here, but no idea if that will be similar elsewhere or if it's something based on my font settings

either way, changing height to min-height is probably a good idea

its gonna be based on font settings

it needs a dejavu webfont or someone needs to pay microsoft for a license for verdana

that would resolve everything across the board

I am gonna have to give it some more thought it seems

else learn how to make this generate so i can test properly

njsg: its ttree bitching about plugin error XML.XPath plugin not found

but i have the perl packages

installed

so i don't get it