00:07:08 <njsg> "privacy-centric advertising"?
00:07:19 <njsg> well, one, that of course immediately reminds me of Google
00:08:14 <njsg> two, I have to read it, but one thing that'd make me wary of an advertising solution if I were using Firefox is if it were owned by the same entity which provides firefox
00:09:17 <njsg> which doesn't mean Mozilla can't do good here, but rather that it probably will have to make sure there's enough transparency in that?
00:10:01 <njsg> maybe this is an attempt to offset their recent incident with the censorship extensions
01:05:03 <CaptainTobin> because Mozilla is fast approching beyond redeemption
01:05:07 <CaptainTobin> I have given up on them
01:06:12 <CaptainTobin> not the tech i still intend my pwarunner but.. mozilla the people.. how can you successfully interact when literally everything is off-topic everywhere
01:06:45 <CaptainTobin> .. or more percisely how am I to when everything I say is considered always off-topic
04:10:37 <CaptainTobin> echo 'configfile ${cmdpath}/grub.cfg' > /tmp/grub.cfg
04:10:37 <CaptainTobin> grub2-mkstandalone --themes="" --locales="" --modules="part_gpt part_msdos all_video fat ntfs ext2 ntfs xfs chain search_fs_uuid search_fs_file search_label search" -O x86_64-efi -o ~/grubx64.efi boot/grub/grub.cfg=/tmp/grub.cfg
04:10:41 <CaptainTobin> THERE
04:10:48 <CaptainTobin> that is how to make a grub you can control
14:23:57 <CaptainTobin> join #rockylinux
17:09:40 <therube> https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/18/mozilla_buys_anonym_betting_privacy/
17:26:38 <CaptainTobin> therube: this is why Mozilla will never be anything.. all they wanna be is Google
17:26:56 <CaptainTobin> and ever since they started they have failed flat on their stunning and brave asses
17:27:36 <CaptainTobin> I had hoped Mozilla would be accepting of not-google but after months of trying not-google is as off-topic as not-firefox.
17:29:24 <ContributorTobin> well now I have icon and fonts and the absolute basic code in the neptune repo now.. and it is responding correctly .. now to start modifing it for this purpose.. the purpose MOST of this code was written for in the first place. No opposition shall prevent me from achiving this goal.
17:31:52 <ContributorTobin> components site (obvious), download (also obvious), panel (again obvious), what isn't is olympia as the name of the component that serves requests from the Add-ons Manager except AUS.. and smartupdate instead of AUS because historical names.
17:32:42 <ContributorTobin> the add-ons manager api this would address was the api and constants established in the new add-ons manager with the zamboni add-ons site software and further refined in olympia
17:33:19 <ContributorTobin> which is what Thunderbird runs .. while Mozilla has a stripped down version they are continuing.
17:35:43 <ContributorTobin> so things are progressing .. have to setup the dns for addons.thereisonlyxul.org (which is gonna be the developer/testing/staging domain) of course when SeaMonkey runs it it will be at your address on your server .. I own the domain may as well use it constructively for something if not for what I intended it for.
17:52:43 <ContributorTobin> https://ibb.co/tHGKsrP
17:52:49 <frg_Away> There ids no privacy with targeted ads. Maybe some money can be made analyzing how many distict views but that is it. And even for the distinct we are at privacy again.
18:05:53 <CaptainTobin> frg_Away: I dislike ads
18:12:29 <frg_Away> so do I. But if static and unintrusive I can live with them. Does not happen so blocking them.
18:14:15 <CaptainTobin> I was fine with the odd banner add or skyscraper or even the odd block.. but no we are WELL beyond that.. half the content I search for is either SEO clickbait either old school or AI generated or some adscape of ads .. or both
18:14:33 <CaptainTobin> I literally go to less places on the web today than I did 10 years ago
18:16:02 <frg_Away> yeah me too. Only a few sites. Aslo not much interested in Windows 11 only hardware which limits it further. Might be the future but not mine.
18:21:08 <tomman> can't wait for Mozilla's IPO
18:51:33 <CaptainTobin> That's enough work for the moment anyway.
18:51:58 <CaptainTobin> hi frg_Away  what's new besides mozilla selling out what remains of its users to their ad company?
19:00:23 <CaptainTobin> tomman: what was mozilla's last earnings?
19:00:37 <CaptainTobin> like 400 thousand and only a fraction goes to development?
19:01:10 <CaptainTobin> how do you make more money than a decade ago when your userbase is a tenth of what it was a decade ago
19:01:15 <CaptainTobin> explain that someone
19:04:27 <tomman> well, you buy into whatever is the latest fad, of course
19:07:05 <frg_Away> don't forget that we deal with 2 different mozilla entities. The last tax statements were interesting.... Anyway doesn't help us one bit. Only people doing work and the ones who donate are my tier 1 :)
19:08:21 <CaptainTobin> cool can I have voice now in here lol
19:09:05 <CaptainTobin> for what I dunno I can't remember the last time someone +m'd this channel
19:34:12 <CaptainTobin> weeeee
19:34:20 <frg_Away> so? Not sure if it sticks. Migfht not have the right rights
19:35:06 <CaptainTobin> nop
19:35:23 <CaptainTobin> have to use /cs flags #seamonkey MattATobin +vV
19:35:29 <CaptainTobin> i suspect
19:35:48 <CaptainTobin> .. more nsPrefixes damn it!
19:37:26 <frg_Away> next try
19:44:10 <CaptainTobin> $ php index.php --path=special/guid --nologo
19:44:11 <CaptainTobin> %{C++
19:44:11 <CaptainTobin> / {e811c4fb-625d-4a20-a5ad-ab6fcde59ca2}
19:44:11 <CaptainTobin> #define NS_CHANGE_ME_IID { 0xe811c4fb, 0x625d, 0x4a20, { 0xa5, 0xad, 0xab, 0x6f, 0xcd, 0xe5, 0x9c, 0xa2 } }
19:44:11 <CaptainTobin> %}
19:44:13 <CaptainTobin> heh
19:48:47 <CaptainTobin> damn it frg_Away now I have a taste for it again..
19:48:58 <CaptainTobin> :P
19:51:39 <njsg> +vV or just +V?
19:51:56 <frg_Away> did +vV
19:53:24 <CaptainTobin> well libera uses atheme the same services package I use on my own server.. tho I use inspircd as the daemon
19:53:35 <njsg> auto voice seems to be +V, +v is ability to set/unset mode +v via chanserv, at least according to the help
19:54:23 <CaptainTobin> but services can be enforced to always match flags
19:54:35 <njsg> but it's possible I'm ignoring something that says +V by itself doesn't work, I think there'll be a few details like that I'd need to relearn to refresh my knowledge of the services commands and flags
19:54:36 <CaptainTobin> err modes
19:54:58 <CaptainTobin> njsg: yeah it doesn't .. last I checked
19:55:33 <njsg> unrelated detail for curiosity: I take it modeless channels aren't supported on libera?
19:55:56 <njsg> nah, the server forces a prefix of "#" in the channel name, it seems
19:55:59 <CaptainTobin> no it has op voice and .. user
19:56:07 <CaptainTobin> oh
19:56:27 <CaptainTobin> njsg: so do you know any php?
19:56:47 <njsg> none
19:57:05 <CaptainTobin> why does no one ever know php lol
19:57:14 <njsg> no modeless channels (+), no server-local channels (&) and no safe channels (!)
19:57:32 <CaptainTobin> njsg: god where is that spec from?
19:57:54 <njsg> IRC channel management, I think... if some weren't already in the initial IRC spec
19:59:12 <njsg> RFC2811 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2811.html
20:09:04 <CaptainTobin> well I can't argue with an rfc from 2000... there were standards back then
23:57:02 <njsg> remind me, what was AVIF?
23:57:27 * njsg also wonders if whoever uses such image formats ever heard of <OBJECT>