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Maya_
Does Ublock support Seamonkey anymore? Its been a while since Ive used it
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frg_Away
yes 1.6.4.30 or one of the forks.
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Maya_
How recently updated are the forks?
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frg_Away
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Maya_
Neat, thank you! Is there a tampermonkey fork yet? I couldn't find one but maybe I just didnt look properly
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tomman
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tomman
why this works on regular sites but not from chrome:// URLs?
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tomman
is it a new security restriction or something?
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tomman
brb, updating the nightly
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tomman
and done
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tomman
jQuery remains broken on addons, a breakage I never imagined, much less expected to see (although the idea of using jQuery for addons UI is... ha!)
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Tre_brock
On specific websites (namecheap, paypal) Seamonkey displays the ownership info of the website. These are the only websites that it seems to know who owns. Is this a list built into seamonkey or is it an element you can add to a website?
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tomman
Tre_brock: you mean the URL bar?
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tomman
AKA the "green" indicator?
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WG9s
Tre_brock: this has to do 1. in it be referenced via https and 2. if yhe certifiate establishes osnership
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Tre_brock
tomman: yes
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Tre_brock
WG9s: Ok
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tomman
Oh, that happens if the website operator is using a EV SSL certificate
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tomman
Extended Validation ones show the green indicator with the cert owner name
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Tre_brock
Yeah that is the one I am looking at, Thanks
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tomman
this is standard across most desktop browsers, not just SeaMonkey
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WG9s
is not the green indicator he is asking about but sme so like if you click on site info if it says this site dos not supply ownership information
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tomman
WG9s: same deal, it actually gets populated for EV SSL certs
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tomman
You can do that too with your website - just pony up the dough for a EV cert :D
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WG9s
well yes i think it will oly show ownerdhip if an EV crt whch is just a scam thing by the cert authorities to get more money BTW
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tomman
true that
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tomman
but hey, the green indicator saying "Honest Ahmed's Websites And Feed" looks shiny :D
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WG9s
I have a crt fro my site and had to prove i was a real oersone and ownd the domain but can;t get the green bar because i refused to pay the extra money
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frg_Away
tomman I think most got rid of the ev indicator
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WG9s
but also if you click on the lock if not an EV cert it says site di not provide ownship infp
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WG9s
info
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frg_Away
anybody can get a secure cert. ev means ownership is validated using legal documents. Usually banks pick them.
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WG9s
I prvided ownship info but it still says i did not becuase did not pay extra for an ev cert
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tomman
frg_Away: tell that to the banks in my country, some are using Let's Encrypt :D
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tomman
(and sometimes they mess up things and go to production with self-signed certs)
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WG9s
but the saing i provided no ownship info is the browsr saying on the cert saying is a domain name owner cert and easy to see who owns the somain name
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frg_Away
there is extra cost involved but as usual these certs are overpriced.
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WG9s
suooosedly the cert provider did background checks on the owners and verified that they are who they say they are, but oddly no policing on this.
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tomman
it's pure security theater at the end of the day anyway, but... we need to tell something to the general population~
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tomman
"ensure the address bar says 'Honest Ahmed's Websites And Feed' before giving your credit card number"
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WG9s
that the certificate authority actually does any of this checking
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WG9s
tat is where the issue lies the CA can cahrge extra but just ig EV certs to their freinds
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tomman
spoilers: Honest Ahmed's Websites And Feed in reality is run by his long lost brother, Abdul
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tomman
which is also a tax evader
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WG9s
tnat is the issue if Honest Ahmed gets to be a trusted certificate autority then he can issue certs to allkind of bad guys sill he is stopped
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WG9s
and there does not seem to be very much policing gong on in this area
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WG9s
so i see little extra value in the EV certs
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WG9s
as fare as if i should trust them any more
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WG9s
I woul trust them more than let's encrypt cert but not any more than a domain validated cert
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WG9s
they supposedly should be more trusted because of the extra background checks on owners and validation ot he owner identity but since it is left up to the CA issuing the cert to do that an seems to be no over-site making sure they actually do it. that is of zero that i take into my consideration as to whether or not to trust the site.
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WG9s
I don't think there is anything in place to hold the CA liable for damages if they issue an EV cert to someone who uses it in any kind of illegal activities.
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WG9s
hmm not sure Danika will be interviewing Trump anytime soon!
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WG9s
Trump is there and Danika is doing interviews
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WG9s
sorry should have said i just switched to Formula 1 mode.