07:52:57 they're gone and I've cleared joins and parts and quits already - but, for logbot, I guess often the workflow would be bugzilla report (either finding an existing one or filling a new one) and then attaching the code as mercurial patches to the bug 07:56:24 ah, and then asking for feedback or review. to discuss the change this channel ( irc://libera.chat/%23seamonkey ) is probably a good venue, if it is not suitable, there is a USENET group too. There's also a mailing list bridged to Gmane, but it's much less used than the USENET group. 07:57:26 er, to make it clear, by asking for feeback or review I meant the bugzilla part; of course it's okay to talk about it before or in comments, it's just that these bugzilla flags are part of the workflow. I should have split the above message into two :-) 15:41:26 tomman: "There are three current engines" well, I rest my case. 16:03:03 well must be pulling a lot of freight then. 16:21:15 WG9s: Antonov was right: the correct number of engines was SIX 16:23:02 * njsg goes check Entroncamento for six Co'Co' 16:24:16 funny thing is. speaking f engines, people don't get that diesel train engines are electric. all electric drive with a deisel generator to produce the electricity 16:24:45 tomman: I thought the correct number was 42 16:25:13 that's fun: there are *precisely* six 1930 at Entroncamento. 16:26:32 WG9s: that can lead to some confusion with the term "diesel-electric", it's not a vehicle that can both use an external source of electricity and diesel, but a such a diesel vehicle with electric motors. 16:27:14 well that is how diesel locmotives have sorked since at elast he 1960's 16:28:29 I think all diesel locomotives in service in .pt, at least those that aren't new, are diesel-electric 16:28:56 multiple units, on the other hand, are mostly not diesel-electric, except for the oldest class 16:31:15 but there aren't many of these, anyway: 0450, double units, used to have rolls-royce engines (as 0400). 592 triple units from Renfe are also not diesel-electric, but 0350, that were even slated to be scrapped, *are* diesel-electric from Allan of Rotterdam. 16:32:18 (six engines, Bo'Bo' and twe two generators) 18:12:49 have you heard of that MIT-licensed OS recently released by IBM and Microsoft?