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njsg
is it a trend that sufficiently advanced websites require webgl without falling back?
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tomman
just like Wayland :P
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tomman
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njsg
tomman: please tell me you're joking and that wayland doesn't require 3D acceleration
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tomman
well, llvmpipe is a thing :D
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tomman
a sloooooow and painful thing
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tomman
but a... thing?
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tomman
also soon the future of desktops will be Vulkan-only™, which means anything prior to Ivy Bridge will become ewaste
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tomman
but cool, "noone is forcing you to use it"
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tomman
(just had a rant about this at #debian-offtopic, and it didn't ended well)
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njsg
doesn't look fancy.
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njsg
I was just thinking requiring openGL would be the kind of think that'd require swearing in Finnish
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njsg
but then maybe the point is that it's not used unless it's enabled somewhere?
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njsg
or is this going to be like all software assumes there is hardware acceleration and uses it, without fallback?
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tomman
all software these days assume you've just bought a new ARMac
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njsg
but what if I want the POWER!!?
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tomman
no, IBM no longer makes personal computers :P
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tomman
ah, you mean that other POWER? Sure, that's what the AI-powered Cloud™ exists!
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njsg
funnily, the only POWER computer I held in my hands was from another maker, not IBM...
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njsg
but the one which machine-screwed screws so tight even the right screwdriver would have trouble
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tomman
it's a shame PowerPC went nowhere outside Macs, and even then it turned out to be a dead end that could not match x86 watt-per-watt
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» njsg does not recall if he went as far as building SeaMonkey; or perhaps as far as launching it
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njsg
because I think I didn't get X11 working
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frg_Away
njsg mainframes are power based
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frg_Away
at least i and p. Not so sure about z
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frg_Away
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tomman
hence why I said PowerPC, which is the consumer-aimed brand
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tomman
I know that IBM keeps POWER alive because they need something to sell that isn't hot air
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tomman
but sadly, nothing you can place on a desk or slip into a backback
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tomman
--backpack
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njsg
okay, I'm not sure I'm acquainted with the IBM branding, I was meaning just the arch in general, although my experience was indeed only with experimenting in a laptop
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njsg
frg_Away: I don't think I've ever played with such a mainframe system
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njsg
would be interesting, though!
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frg_Away
njsg have an emulator. Old MVS is available for free. Look for hercules. But if you never did this just pass. IBM ruined it like everything else they touched. Now just there to milk the last customers.
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tomman
I've Been Milked™
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frg_Away
I still remember OS/2 PS/2 Token ring, IBM personal compilers and Thinkpads. All gone now. Almost no one knows what DB2 is/was. Oracle took over. Now Red Hat. Personally I will never buy anthing IBM again.
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tomman
I couldn't really buy anything IBM even if I tried, but then I'm just a consoomer
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frg_Away
I did at the end of the 80ies. My first PC was an IBM PS/2 model 80. It was great for its time. Still use the keyboard. And one of the power supplies for testing pinball boards.
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frg_Away
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tomman
I have two IBM metal here from their final glory days on the Think brand: a Thinkcentre M50 and a Thinkpad T40, both 21 years old
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tomman
they can get drunk legally in most of the planet :D
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frg_Away
Still use a T30 and T42p for eprom and xilinx programming.
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tomman
just got a good battery for my T40
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tomman
100 cycles, but it can power the thing for 2+ hours while playing games
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tomman
it now quadboots 98SE/Me/XP and Debian (well, two separate HDDs), so I now use it for old games mainly
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tomman
world's most awkward GameBoy
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frg_Away
well the T42 line uses a later ATI with much better drivers so I picked this one. In theory even 7 woks on it if you have too much time and like self mutilation.
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tomman
the 9600?
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tomman
mine has the 7500, and while it's basically among the lowest end Radeon junk for its era, I'm still surprised of its performance
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frg_Away
yes or a fire gl too based on a 9.
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tomman
it beats the crap out of any integrated Intel/SiS/VIA video of the era
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frg_Away
The first usable Intel was the 965 in the T61. But they made sure to discontinue drivers fast.
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tomman
starbreaker.org/blog/links/js-naked-day/index.html back to this site the guy made a update that kinda invalidated his rant:
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tomman
he switched to an .AVIF image for a meme
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tomman
of course, it's a image file that won't render on anything but Modern™ followers of Chrome
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njsg
"more dynamic and *colorful* experience"
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njsg
wait, what
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njsg
gray on gray is more colorful?
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njsg
tomman: ah, so that's what that frame with border is!
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njsg
so wait, it links to the png but loads the avif?
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njsg
that deserves the question of why is it using .avif and only .avif in srcset
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njsg
good ol' OBJECT would allow to fall back to PNG; if I'm reading correctly, srcset does not allow for this?
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tomman
huh, a browser crash...
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WG9s
tomman: last one i had was actully glib issue supposedly fixed in GLib 2.79.2
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tre
How would I contribute code to seamonkey?