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njsg
...inline hex color preview
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njsg
er, quotes around that above, as I'm quoting. Just wanted to say I think my Emacs has that!
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tomman
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tomman
"the UI is from year 2005! If you love it, you must not be a designer!"
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tomman
he even compared SeaMonkey's UI to... 9/11
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tomman
(OK, not directly, but the reference is frankly disgusting)
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tomman
> Design is supposed to look nice and look like it goes together with the rest of the ecosystem. It is not mutually exclusive with functionality. But you clearly don't care about design that looks good. You are clearly not a design guy. You do not have an eye for design. You do not care about design.
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njsg
that reference is indeed a huge WTF
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njsg
and can easily be proven to be utterly ridiculous by various comparisons of many other things that coexisted with 2001-09-11
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tomman
designers truly believe that if they aren't changing things all the time, then Something Is Wrong™
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tomman
reminds me of Tesla
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Sompi
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Sompi
and at some point of time Google used to be an actually competent IT company
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Sompi
now they cannot even implement a simple textbox on a website
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Sompi
HTML textarea? No, it's too old. Better do it with two megabytes of minified JavaScript
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Sompi
Literally nothing in that works. The typing is probably implemented by JavaScript events and it has ton of bugs
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Sompi
Pressing Enter sometimes adds two line feeds instead of one. Pressing ctrl+backspace empties the whole textbox, when it should only remove the last word before the caret. Everything is laggy and unresponsive
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WG9s
tomman: were you thinking you should be included in the SeaMonkey about:credits? or did i misiterpret your post
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njsg
meanwhile a VT over RS-232 possibly lags less? :-P
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njsg
(re: Sompi)
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WG9s
njsg: are you suing a stelite ISP
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njsg
oh, no, I mean lag relative to the host machine
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WG9s
OK juxt some don;t get that with satellite isp service get good bandwitch but a conversation tpe thing lags becuase of the dlay in the spped of light between earth and athe stelite
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njsg
there's probably some lag from RS-232, but mine allows a high enough baud rate (11x k?) that it'll only lag more visibly when flow control is triggered
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WG9s
this si why some satelite providers ysed to require you to also have an rs-232 connection to you used the satelite fro data to you and the rs-232 for data from you.
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njsg
downlink-only, heh. That's going to be even more A than ADSL
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WG9s
because trying to optimize downlaods of course to orptimize uploads this just might make things worse
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njsg
(downlink-only, I mean, the satellite link is downlink-only)
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Sompi
njsg: Of course a serial terminal lags less. Even 110 bauds per second, with 7-bit chars, means 15 characters per second. It is magnitudes faster than the typing speed of textboxes on modern webpages
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WG9s
yes but if you are uploading things now you have the slower rs-242 speed for the upload and the big latency on the acks oming back so there is the issue satlite isp service is really not designed for you to be uplaoading
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njsg
Sompi: ouch. *ouch.
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Sompi
Serial link does not have big latency
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njsg
yeah, in my experience what I have to worry about is latency from remote connections, which go inside screen so that screen handles XON-XOFF flow control
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WG9s
tomman:anway if you want to be included you can either go to about:credits in the latest seamonkey nightly or just go to
wg9s.com/credits and click on the fill out this form link (can;t go there directly becuase of my security setting)
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WG9s
I just go tthe form working so is not at all themed is a bare form
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WG9s
goes to IanN frg and me currently
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Sompi
lag is modern
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njsg
I guess Broadcom was a pioneer with their Wireless NICs, then :-D
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» njsg checks the "comment how bad broadcom wifi firmware is" checkbox for 2024-04-20
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Sompi
aren't they also windows-exclusive
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Sompi
closed source drivers and no documentation on how to make your own
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njsg
closed source but for linux too, I think, at least the drivers I had to deal with
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njsg
sadly, the issues aren't in the driver, but in the firmware (perhaps in the hardware too?)
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Sompi
closed source driver for linux usually means that it only works on x86 platforms
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njsg
issues to the extent v6 is outright unusable with some models, which need v5 to work
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njsg
I actually thought this was "performs badly", but apparently I'm remembering wrong:
bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541080#c1
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Sompi
I need to study how linux's driver interface works
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Sompi
would it be possible to implement the driver API from from 32-bit x86 Linux to ST-DOS...
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njsg
I'm glad I have been away from Broadcom firmware for so long that I forgot it segfaults!
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njsg
I'm at least happy I was able to try another card just to rule out "hardware issue", which IIRC Broadcom insisted was the problem when someone else reached out to them
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tomman
WG9s_Away: sorry, I was making breakfast
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» tomman reads the backlog
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tomman
OK, will do, thanks~
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tomman
feels good to be a part of this, even if only with bugreports :D
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WG9s_Away
so will test the process but not the form I need to work on this
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WG9s_Away
back in the say whn i was webmater on or corporate server, I mostly got this type of thng working and then turned it over to my web designer who said "I will make it a thing of beauty" I reallly miss having her for this
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tomman
done, filled the form
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WG9s_Away
tomman: i got the emailso IanN and frg did also. I have zero to do with approving this I only get these as it is not ready for primetime to be on a seamonkey-project server so is on my server so they ened to approve I am only in the updateing the list for now.
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njsg
I think the only time I did a form it was really just the form elements on HTML, and the results fed into SBCL
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tomman
also, a pure HTML form, what a rarity these days~
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njsg
(yes, I did a CGI script with an sbcl shebang, no idea how common that is)
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WG9s
tomman: I at last made the justification be a textbox
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WG9s
I also changed it to be called a citation to be consistent with what mozilla calls it.