op.fi More errors there. Now even the login banner is invisible.

Firefox also has errors on the console, but the page renders about correctly

But the login prompt does not fit to the browser's viewport and scrolling is not allowed in the CSS

On a 1920x1200 pixel resolution...

Well, at least zooming out works

Sompi: "The requested URL was rejected. Please consult with your administrator." -- so this is the kind of blacklisting you sometimes get?

I usually get a complete ban to the server, so that it does not even answer TCP SYN segments at all

looks like UA blacklisting or whitelisting. sigh.

with ua override I can see the login sidebar, but it's transparent

Sompi: uh. yeah, I can't see the top bar if UA is set to SeaMonkey (Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP Networking)

if I set it to "SeaMonkey and advertise Firefox compatibility" I get the opaque background, looks much better

either that or random parts of the site are failing at random moments :-P

May be anything. Firefox also gets JS errors, so it's not just Seamonkey now.

UA just SeaMonkey: top bar missing, some images don't load?; UA just Firefox: ... lol.

showed the top bar then removed it

I literally cannot pay my bills anymore

Should I even care...

SeaMonkey+Firefox at least appears to load everything in the home page

the transparent background might have been a transient failure, I can't reproduce that one

... and now it always works?

!?"

For me it stopped loading completely

i have issues with some sites not dipslying sidevbars correcly unless the firefox window is full screen and i am not displaying the firefox sidebar (like to display history) I think they confuse screen resoultion with vewport size

i bet they all use the smae toolkit to do the sidebar

njsg: Actually I too have the same problem, it randomly just doesn't load or gives an empty document or a page that says "The requested URL was rejected. Please consult with your administrator."

The webpage is just broken.

ok, if I test further, I'll keep an eye on the devtools's network tab, because maybe that's the problem: some requests getting that response instead of scripts/css/...

PM 64-bit to require CPU's supporting AVX - supposedly for performance reasons forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&p=249944

i'll have to peruse the linked link to see if this performance increase reasoning seems to hold water?

I can understnd discontinuing support for Core2Duos but my Xeon Westmeres still hold up very weell and even the first i5 and i7 ones in my Thinkpads are still ok. So nothing I would want to port over. Would be different if primary target is handling media stuff but it is still a browser I used for different things :)

come to think of it, forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=30915, so there were already AVX builds out there - which i looked at - for a moment, & not noticing anything discernible, just thought, oh, that's nice ;-),

kind of like when a new SeaMonkey is released & someone says, "oh, it's sooooo much faster then the [older version]"

therube well now and then I nothiced SeaMonkey redering stuff smoother but most of the time it was probably just wishful thinking :) Unless media playback or some fancy graphics you rpobably won't see much of a difference with avx builds. ymmv

Windows 2.53.18.2 builds done

They are completely out of their minds

I have an old xeon and it has more calculating power than many new CPUs after firmware updates

model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU W3565 @ 3.20GHz

[1148-19] <frg_Away> Windows 2.53.18.2 builds done

yay

another interesting PM thread, this one dealing with tabs, lots of tabs, forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30970

therube: i wish i never dragged you over there

i am so so sorry

no to worry.

they ain't even all that nice to you even today

they should be more nice especially seeing as you ain't no uninformed 2019 user lol

The W3565 is basically the Nehalem 55xx. I prefer the 56xx but they are pretty close. Compared to later cpus they are not as efficient but that is it more or less. Anyway Sandy or Ivy Bridge is way better and still holds up well for general use.

I am gonna be abandoning AMD next system

i have no intrest in AM5 or later industry wide amd fuckups

and amd isn't even much cheaper or faster anymore like the old days

just intel doesn't sell everything unlocked

MattATobin: i'm getting an i9 10900k, should be plenty until risc v or whatever supersedes x86 for good

big little on desktops is a disaster

Intel: we charge extra for full memory address space :-P (ok, now seriously, half of the time the computer/motherboard manufacturers are probably to blame, when they don't add, say, the required traces to allow more memory, but intel did produce some interesting examples like chipsets used in 64-bit machines that have a 32-bit memory address space)

therube: there *is* one issue in SeaMonkey with a number of tabs that I'd like to understand better: you need to allow tabs to shrink a lot; there's then a spot where it causes CPU load and clicking on one tab selects another

it's not about too many tabs, more tabs make it go away too

I think most customer-grade and workstation-grade motherboard in fact have only 36-bit address bus

mrnhmath: riscv is the future

all hail riscv

one we will probably not see if any

Thought about buying an arm board just to ply around. Nothing on the market and what is is a price joke. risc v is not even at this stage.

frg_Away: I thought Apple Made ARM Great Again™

ironically the only ARM SoC that genuinely does not suck is... on Apple hardware, which is a bummer

tomman as long as you run macOS.

which is another bummer

Snapdragon is OK on cellphones, but a bad joke on computers

When I find some time I might set up a vm on my mac mini but even this one is hard. Virtualbox is still crap there.

everything else is either a toy, or for places where you do not really need the performance

I don't want to buy new things again and this current computer has more computing power than I'll ever need

you don't get to choose, citizen

we're in the world of text editors and chat apps that require 16GB RAM and a octa-core Ryzen 5

arm would be good with my dive into linux from scratch

for those pissy little toy computer chips

make a custom kernel for it

compile*

Linux from Scratch is something I intend to do someday before I die

...but not today

Editors... (well, $VISUALs, in this case?) I remember when Emacs ran okay on 64 MiB RAM, except for erc.

I made an OS from scratch but it's not Linux...