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IanN
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IanN
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IanN
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frg
hi rsx11m
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rsx11m
hi frg IanN
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IanN
hiya rsx11m
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rsx11m
ircbot's certificate has expired ... :-(
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WG9s
hi
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njsg
hi .*
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IanN
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frg
yes needs an exception right now
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rsx11m
hi WG9s njsg
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IanN
Who's taking minutes?
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frg
me probably late again
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MattATobin
Hi
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rsx11m
hi Matt
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frg
MattATobin hi
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ContributorTobin
rsx11m: you know better than that ;) hi
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IanN
thanks frg
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IanN
Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
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rsx11m
ContributorTobin: sorry
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ContributorTobin
rsx11m: it's cool :)
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WG9s
wong for helping get nightly archive operational and dealing with the time zone differential in communicating with me
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frg
+1
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IanN
seconded
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rsx11m
always+
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njsg
thirded
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IanN
Action Items
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frg
Not much action here. One of us needs to do a website update but not urgent
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IanN
I will try to do it this afternoon
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ContributorTobin
sm's site has held up remarkably well considering the radical shifts and shifts back in web design
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IanN
Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure
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frg
we are still old fashioned :)
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ContributorTobin
and god bless you for it
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frg
Nothing new here unless ewong didn something behind the curtains with WG9s wrt. more archiving.
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ContributorTobin
What about 1687385
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frg
I need to find some time to think about it but not really infrastructure
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IanN
Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree
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frg
all building. I am making progress updating SpiderMonkey but nothing really great till now. Only import.meta working
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ContributorTobin
Python is becoming an increading problem tho on newer distros
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frg
Myckel is on it. Remind me to nominate him next :)
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ContributorTobin
On central as of 124a1 non-e10s is impossible outside the env var rendering my example app busted landed 2 days before I started it.
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ContributorTobin
and also.. I am playing in central so that may be fun in the future
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frg
yes it needs multiprocess since a few releases already.
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IanN
playing in central is like playing in the traffic on a motorway / freeway / autobahn
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ContributorTobin
IanN: Not many can get away with it.. but I might.
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rsx11m
... with 250mph ;-)
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njsg
and the road moving in the opposite direction pulled by a few Rolls-Royce/SNECMA Olympus 593?
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ContributorTobin
plus thunderbird's comm on top?
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ContributorTobin
It's been fun. I actually used a toolkit pref to spawn navigator.xul and it was .. barely existing it was funny
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ContributorTobin
well .xhtml
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ContributorTobin
anyway playing in central, more later if any ;)
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IanN
Release Train
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frg
If you have fixed for specific bugs we can put them in either the queue or central.
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frg
nothing yet to release i think.
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frg
lots of stuff in but mostly groundwork
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ContributorTobin
you still considering dropping betas?
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frg
I yes IanN not. But for 2.53.19 a beta is probably warranted.
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ContributorTobin
Maybe do betas as needed
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IanN
There's lots gone into 2.53.19
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ContributorTobin
and maybe that will make it more likely to get feedback when you do one
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frg
Problem is that no ones tests and then when it hits realse the world ends and the complainers show up.
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ContributorTobin
I will build that next and give it a good old fasioned manual bashing see if anything busts
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ContributorTobin
frg: i wish other people understood that was a bad thing for devs
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ContributorTobin
I do suggest dropping dbm in nss
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ContributorTobin
tho
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frg
Data manager and old cookie viewer might need an update for same site cookies but unsure. I am continuing ripping out the old sync places api.
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ContributorTobin
the old cookie viewer was kinda busted in 52.. I replaced it with Pale Moon's version
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frg
dbm is on my short chopping list but only used for migration right now.
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IanN
Extensions Tracking
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ContributorTobin
ah you're at that stage
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frg
bau for extensions. Still please test 2.53.19b1 pre. There always might be side effects and when it hits release I personally/usually don't care if something broken 3 months ago.
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ContributorTobin
ES4 for-each removal likely broke some older extensions
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frg
yes
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frg
the nsIPrefservice change too
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ContributorTobin
How is DOMi doing?
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frg
still kicking
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ContributorTobin
I may have a few enhancements since I approerated defacto control of the extension form. I would have to look
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ContributorTobin
I am still gonna look into static themes for you
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frg
Add a bug and a patch(es) or send it my or IanNs way.
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ContributorTobin
OH not gonna employ phabricator lol
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frg
No
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njsg
phabricator was only for mozilla-central, but how does that work now with the infra changes?
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ContributorTobin
be warned classic add-ons archive's .. archive only has extensions for firefox targets tho some were multiapp it does not have seamonkey nor thunderbird extensions
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frg
njsg no TB uses it too now
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njsg
ah great, I must have forgotten that
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IanN
2.Next, Feature List, Planning and Roundtable
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frg
bau
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ContributorTobin
Sync stuff is on hold until webcompat makes it worth bothering
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tomman
yo, I'm late :D
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IanN
BAU for me too
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tomman
reminder to update my nightly here
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IanN
hi tomman
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ContributorTobin
I like the credits idea
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tomman
any pitfall to be aware this time?
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ContributorTobin
easy to add
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frg
hi tomman
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frg
tomman nothing hopefully
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ContributorTobin
You still want a tabbrowser overhaul lol?
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frg
some stuff like the stack is already in
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ContributorTobin
You know from Firefox 4 on tabbrowser was radically changed to be toolbar based
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ContributorTobin
closest SM last resembles is 3.6
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ContributorTobin
I actually got 3.6's tabbrowser working in navigator.xul partally
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ContributorTobin
Suppose could try and port Pale Moon's tabbrowser in but that would break more extensions
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ContributorTobin
and be a pretty radical change under the hood
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ContributorTobin
But u'd get pinned tabs and a toolbar that can have toolbar icons on
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ContributorTobin
Or Firefox's but I dunno how australis would complicate it
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ContributorTobin
SOrry didn't mean to derail
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IanN
AOB
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frg
Off for a few days starting tomorrow. Busy week ahead.
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rsx11m
DST is coming up next month on this side of the atlantic
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rsx11m
affects next meeting
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IanN
yeah DST is end of March for EU/UK
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rsx11m
always fun :-p
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ContributorTobin
Do you guys need a wiki or would something that reads markdown files and git control be cool with you
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njsg
(was it early April in the US in the early 2000s? I think there was something on jwz's blog recently that had the DST date in April)
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IanN
ContributorTobin: best to talk to ewong about that
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rsx11m
njsg: long time ago, I guess - they moved it into mid March thru after Halloween at some point
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frg
ContributorTobin As long as we have access to the current wiki probaly not. I wouldn't have time to write somethign down anyway :(
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IanN
okay, thanks for your time, next meeting in 3 weeks, same bat channel, various bat times due to DST or not
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ContributorTobin
I do like status meetings.
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ContributorTobin
especially seamonkey ones
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rsx11m
:-)
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njsg
March 10?
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rsx11m
yepp
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rsx11m
same time UTC, one hour later on the clock for where DST applies already
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ContributorTobin
I solve the problem by just always being here.. except when i am not then it is more difficult to attend
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njsg
legislative election day in .pt
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rsx11m
have fun checking boxes!
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IanN
or finding boxes
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IanN
have a good 3 weeks rsx11m
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rsx11m
see you next time!
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CaptainTobin
Always away
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CaptainTobin
the funny thing is frg does it and I am still not sure if he know why
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frg_Away
CaptainTobin just to indicate that I might not respond. If it is frg I am inclined to respond immediately like in a meeting.
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CaptainTobin
There is one enhancement that I could make preffed off and that is the ability to control+click any xul or html element and get a domi window from it targeted to the element you are on
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CaptainTobin
i nicked it from a domi modified version
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CaptainTobin
but that isn't what I meant
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CaptainTobin
by the fixes i need to look for that I did and if they apply
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CaptainTobin
frg_Away: so where do I get the beta code for the next release?
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CaptainTobin
so I can bash it
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frg_Away
top of heptapod plus patch queue
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CaptainTobin
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frg_Away
gitlab is the same level but patch queue is easier to apply in heptapod/ with hg
foss.heptapod.net/seamonkey
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frg_Away
gitlab master
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CaptainTobin
I cheated on central cause it was only 15 patches so i used my git cinnabar repo and applied em manually but yeah
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CaptainTobin
but this crazy setup of yours .. I should follow it
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CaptainTobin
Hi IanN
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CaptainTobin
again
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IanN
hi CaptainTobin
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CaptainTobin
patchqueue
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CaptainTobin
is patching in a queue
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CaptainTobin
lol
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CaptainTobin
WG9s