16:21:30 <CaptainTobin> oh look someone still makes reasonable bluetooth earpieces even if it is dual now https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C3PXYSR3?tag=digitrend08sub4-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&_keeptag=1
16:21:40 <CaptainTobin> ones you don't have to jam in your brain to use
16:29:30 <therube> https://www.neowin.net/news/mozilla-lays-off-60-team-members-as-it-scales-back-product-development/
16:30:26 <therube> sounds like Mozilla is a good place (in knowing what it's going to do - not)
16:30:40 <frg_Away> CaptainTobin with google MS and the other ilk pouring literally billions into AI I can tell you what will happen with mozilla ai ....
16:32:10 <frg_Away> therube Nahh Ask Gartner group for advice and do the opposite.
16:43:25 <tomman> https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/world-governments-summit/ in the meanwhile noVideo no longer wants gamers buying their GPUs, they're now an AI corporation
17:08:39 <frg_Away> Reminds me a bit of the blockchain hype. Not much left of it. AI has more potential but doubt you will see fast returns if you pour money into it. Anyone buying a processor or system for its AI enhancements now is throwing money into the dumpster unless you do r&d. My 2 cents. Intels new CPUs are a joke and I bet they are there so that the next generation in 2 years can be advertized as the...
17:08:41 <frg_Away> ...perfect replcement for the outdated AI processors from last generation.
17:31:50 <ContributorTobin> Well like most mozilla not being an application platform bits go this AI shit will be canceled as well as Firefox the application will suffer for it
17:32:14 <ContributorTobin> but only after it has failed for months and years before hand
17:33:21 <ContributorTobin> it is as not-new as me using mozilla code for not-firefox
17:33:33 <ContributorTobin> at this point
17:33:39 <ContributorTobin> frg_Away tomman therube
17:34:28 <ContributorTobin> I hope the AI madness won't mess up too much in non browser/ code
17:37:04 <ContributorTobin> It's ok, this time I am not mad just disappointed that they keep making these mistakes instead of making the best damned web browser and community application platform on the planet.
17:37:49 <ContributorTobin> which doesn't at all discount AI enhancement but also isn't crippled by it
17:40:37 <frg_Away> I can understand that they they need to make money. Maybe enterprise contracts would have worked once but now with Chrome so far entrenched no incentive to switch to Firefox if you are a business. They don't care about manifest v3, pprivacy or content blocking. And no PWA support either. This is all crap but now needed.
17:43:19 <ContributorTobin> well manifest v3 is alien to mozilla anyway
17:43:22 <ContributorTobin> to its base tech
17:43:38 <ContributorTobin> but privacy content blocking pwa
17:43:41 <ContributorTobin> yeah
17:43:46 <ContributorTobin> these are all important things
17:43:55 <ContributorTobin> pwa expecially
17:44:05 <ContributorTobin> or just arbitrary site specific browsing windows
17:44:33 <ContributorTobin> remember Mozilla intented these concepts back in the 2000s cause hta was a disappointment
17:44:53 <ContributorTobin> invented*
17:45:39 <ContributorTobin> among other things
17:47:31 <ContributorTobin> Microsoft Edge is the current leader in PWA experience because they bring it to the forefront but it is still based on the browser being the main window
17:48:23 <ContributorTobin> as in today's web browser concept is still the main window and I believe that is what keeps leading us broadly to keep screwing up like this leaving generational tech gaps
17:49:24 <ContributorTobin> We have to abandon the concept of a web browser as in the Netscape Navigator style of web browser AS the main interface to the web
17:50:00 <ContributorTobin> in order to actually experiment with bridging the gap between desktop and web
17:51:35 <ContributorTobin> and in doing so it may for some make a Netscape Navigator style interface all you need cause well most sites and services are more like desktop programs to the user
17:52:37 <ContributorTobin> the thing in doing this with Mozilla tech that makes it better than chrome is.. anyone can jump into mozilla with a little foreknowlege and learn a bunch still but jumping into chromium is a nightmare
17:53:36 <ContributorTobin> now I am talking mainstream masses here not crazy fucks such as our selves
18:24:56 <ContributorTobin> but who would have that kind of foresight and experience with the concepts