14:34:54 status meeting in 29 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-12-17 14:51:43 status meeting in 12 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-12-17 14:59:41 status meeting in 5 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-12-17 15:02:01 hi .* 15:02:25 njsg hi 15:02:38 hey, First time using seamonkey, on arch via Wayland & Hypr, works great!!! 15:03:40 status meeting time - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-12-17 15:03:56 hi njsg and welcome hyprarch 15:04:00 hyprarch we do what we can so that it stays this way :) 15:04:21 Still needs X11 though 15:04:54 Who's taking minutes? 15:05:14 me 15:05:39 thank you!, looking forward to helping as much as I can 15:07:08 thanks frg 15:07:18 Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank? 15:07:24 I nominate Patrick Brunschwig for maintaining the enigmail add-on 15:08:38 seconded 15:08:39 seconded 15:08:42 thirded 15:09:21 fourthed! 15:09:48 IanN: I think you actually seconded first, as I was hitting return :-) 15:10:00 heh 15:10:06 Action Items? 15:10:26 Nothing new from me. 15:10:59 I think ewong moved things over to azure but not sure 15:13:11 yeah, he did, need to change where downloads point to when he confirms everything is okay 15:13:30 Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure 15:14:12 not much done here either. Done the release on the old 2012 R2 builder and need to find some time to check out the 2019 one. 15:14:48 as stated ewong moved the files over from archive.mozilla.org but no public url yet. 15:16:36 Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure 15:16:40 oops# 15:16:49 Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree 15:17:23 2.53 is peachy. c-c is building too 15:17:56 Still on js updates in a separate branch but real life took over lately a bit more so not much progress. 15:18:14 slowly updating devtools 15:20:09 Release Train 15:20:23 2.53.18 was released :) 15:20:41 A bit of a bigger beta->final update with the nss nspr changes 15:21:45 I hope this was the last release for some time affecting add-on compatibility but no guarantees 15:25:07 Extension Tracking 15:26:02 enigmail is now at 3.1.8. 15:26:35 Fixes a double menu problem with 2.53.18 15:28:08 a quick fix 15:29:51 2.x, Feature List, Planning and Roundtable 15:30:16 bau 15:31:40 aww, missed the final meeting~ 15:31:53 (for this year) 15:32:12 tomman hi 15:33:20 Roundtable, is this a good section to mention that Usenet usability in general is bound to improve early next year, just before March? 15:33:23 :-P 15:33:36 njsg: what's happening? 15:33:55 googles discontinues usenet support! 15:34:01 IanN: the biggest spammer announced it will disconnect from Usenet on 15 - or 22 - February 15:34:32 shouldn't we kill https://groups.google.com/a/lists.mozilla.org/g/support-seamonkey/ ? 15:34:54 https://groups.google.com/access-error?continue=https://groups.google.com/a/lists.mozilla.org/g/dev-apps-seamonkey/ is gone already thanks to them I think. 15:35:04 No breakages to report here 15:35:09 frg: no, that was mozilla, I think 15:35:11 just Giggityhub being Giggityhub 15:35:19 can't be bothered to see what Chromeisms they want this week 15:35:35 I guess I can't read READMEs anymore without cloning whole repos 15:36:48 only 5 days notice of the closure, but from memory it's not been widely used 15:37:02 ... wait, but the group was actually active, the meeting notices were being sent there 15:37:18 I actually thought it has no traffic, but no, it was being actively used 15:37:35 news://news.gmane.io/CACsL-AfN+1ZnZ5cFrPHwiGUY45N_F2Z+V9WubpjX8RtCbo9_wA%40mail.gmail.com 15:38:24 er, not actively, but still used 15:40:06 Well for me google is the new aol and not in a positve way :) 15:40:42 My rec.games.pinball filter list is is 99.9% gmail spammers 15:41:17 While these two lists are Google groups, they're also bridged to newsgroups at gmane 15:41:44 wasn't aware they were bridged 15:41:49 Sadly, these lists are Google groups. This matters because, unlike other list management software, if you want something like setting your subscription to "nomail" you need to have a google account. 15:43:13 IanN: didn't happen automatically, but manually, it might have been me who requested them, I'm not sure if any has history predating the new, post-news.mozilla.org, SeaMonkey google groups, I think one has history, but for the wrong group 15:45:32 frg: does your news provider filter the spam? there are three or four doing NoCeMs, but I forget which are some of them 15:46:06 njsg yes now 15:46:39 njsg: the groups used to be bridged until Mozilla moved to Google groups so now there's two separate things - the google group and a separate new group 15:47:37 yes, this bridging I'm talking about is Gmane 15:47:46 but about that, isn't it also a new google group? 15:48:18 I think I tried to check and it didn't have older posts in the (painful to navigate in their interface...) archive 15:48:47 it's possible old content is only at mozilla.support.seamonkey, which *is* one of these blocked because of the Google spam (not of the new kind, but rather the italian spam) 15:49:28 anyone time for AOB 15:49:31 Archive is still there but need to fix the website becuase the removal. 15:49:37 aob bau 15:49:56 Happy holidays everyone 15:50:06 next meeting is in 3 weeks on 7th Jan 15:50:12 happy holidays .*! 15:50:17 thanks for your time everyone 15:50:33 have a good break 15:51:13 have a break, have a kit kat :) 15:51:33 happy holidays!! 15:53:04 other snacks are available 15:53:13 I prefer Duplo bars 15:53:29 I like a Cadbury Caramel 15:55:25 0xc0ffee 15:58:21 the only hexadecimal drink! 15:59:04 Well I like Duplo bars with coffee too :) 16:00:29 Duplo makes me think of Lego 16:02:28 IanN designed a Lego Duplo custom box when a colleage retired. Inside were the chummy ones :) 16:04:18 https://ibb.co/52K7LrD 16:05:36 says My first retirement