01:04:35 <a-865> Did browser.throbber.url get a new name? It doesn't work any more. :(
10:48:24 <frg_Away> a-865 browser.throbber.url and friends was unified and changed to app.vendorurl in 2.53.4 Bug 1642450
10:58:45 <a-865> frg_Away: found app.vendorURL already searching bugzilla for throbber, but thx for reply :) I'm behind on what changed, needs changing, and what needs preserved. :p I'm still using buc's Fedora build to get logical iso8601 dates/times in library & elsewhere
11:00:12 <a-865> Bug 360266 Opened 2006-11-10
11:00:43 <a-865> 17+ years and still open
11:03:29 <njsg> so it seems the current wave of heavy USENET SPAM is scheduled to end on February 22, 2024
11:03:53 <njsg> The major spammer has announced they intend to stop allowing posting to USENET on that date.
11:08:41 <a-865> njsg: last week you pointed me to memtest86 when I mentioned crashing. I spent friday night all day saturday using it. First try found bad, so I swapped some sticks among machines, and never got another "bad" ram result. No more SM crashes either.
11:10:57 <a-865> njsg: had 16-16-16-36 pair and 17-17-17-39 pair in same PC. Keeping all 4 sticks 17-17-17-39 made the red go away.
11:11:34 <a-865> lower CAS isn't necessarily a good thing :p
11:12:07 <a-865> also, speed increased with all 4 the same
11:12:43 <njsg> ah, memory compatibility and stability :-)
11:13:22 * njsg has had an experience more than a decade ago with a motherboard that was very picky about what kind of ram it could take without crashing
11:13:32 <njsg> it wasn't mixed, it wasn't bad, it just wasn't the right one
11:17:08 <a-865> the problem sticks were "Ryzen" labeled with an Intel CPU/GPU, yet working fine alone in another Intel board
11:20:02 <a-865> troubled board was Gigabyte
11:20:19 <a-865> OK board Asus
11:39:05 <frg_Away> so sad to see them leave: https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538?visit_id=638382121371600439-1361429638&p=usenet&rd=1
11:39:22 <frg_Away> Bon voyage and don't come back!
11:39:28 <mimasama> lol rip bozo
12:01:22 <njsg> yeah, what am I gonna do now without all the GG spam?
12:08:36 <tomman> "Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam."
12:09:03 <tomman> of course Modern Social Technologies™ are neither binary nor spam
12:09:08 <tomman> got it, Alphabet
12:14:03 <njsg> that's just misinformation, really
12:14:37 <njsg> "over the last several years", I'd say USENET usage has been more or less consistent? there are groups with people participating, there are groups with little or no activity
12:15:13 <njsg> I find it much harder to believe that there has been a noticeable change in that regard in the past decade. The only significant difference has been the amount of SPAM injected into USENET by [checks notes] Alphabet.
12:16:27 <njsg> it almost looks like somebody was finally forced to realize they still had the connection to USENET and forced to act on the spam and decided to pick the easy way out, ending another google service. and then had to make up a statement on that.