12:17:25 <frg_Away> Hi tonymec|away
12:18:46 <tonymec|away> hi frg_Away
14:36:13 <IanN> status meeting in 27 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-11-12
14:56:57 <IanN> status meeting in 7 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-11-12
15:01:59 <njsg> hi .*
15:03:15 <IanN> status meeting time - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-11-12
15:03:34 <frg> Hi rsx11m all
15:03:42 <rsx11m> hi frg IanN
15:04:34 <IanN> hi rsx11m
15:04:59 <IanN> Who's taking minutes?
15:05:19 <frg> me
15:05:48 <IanN> thanks
15:05:57 <IanN> Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
15:06:29 <frg> Tom healy and team from mozilla for workign with us on infrastructure "time extension"
15:07:00 <IanN> seconded
15:07:18 <njsg> thirded
15:08:34 <IanN> Action Items
15:09:26 <frg> we got a preliminary approval to continue using mozilla infra till the end of 2024 but need to work out some details with MZLA
15:09:50 <frg> distribution is still on track to swithc to our own server whereever this is :)
15:10:58 <IanN> ewong is working on that part
15:11:11 <frg> yes he stated that he is on track with it.
15:11:13 <tomman> yo~
15:11:18 <tomman> hello world~
15:11:24 <IanN> hi tomman
15:11:38 <frg> Hi tomman
15:12:00 <IanN> Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure
15:12:35 <frg> The soon to be releases 2.53.18b1 will switch to BugSplat for crash reporting.
15:13:52 <frg> IanN should we ask ewong to turn off our server with 2.53.18 final?
15:15:43 <IanN> frg: well we can schedule for after it is released
15:18:44 <IanN> Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree
15:19:43 <frg> All building. Still backporting js stuff with Myckel in a parallel branch. Now and import.meta and BigInt but need to check soon fi this even compiles :)
15:20:05 <tomman> ah, the new duo of destruction
15:20:53 <frg> tomman well I got it working till end of 61a1 already but the new regexp stuff did crash. So putting more in.
15:21:17 <IanN> and I am working on other backports
15:21:44 <frg> Still want to unbreak stylo too but this is urgkkk....
15:22:05 <IanN> currently mutator or mutalator or something like that
15:22:28 <frg> uri mutator but not the removal parts
15:23:24 <frg> Yesterdays cZ is broken becuase of it. Should be fixed with current morning build from WG9s
15:24:05 <IanN> Release Train
15:24:51 <frg> 2.53.18b1 is done and should be out in the next few days. Please test. This should be very stable.
15:26:16 <frg> Hi WG9s
15:26:26 <WG9s>  Hi
15:26:28 <rsx11m> hi WG9s too
15:26:56 <frg> 2.53.18 has the new regexp stuff in which should help with tons of websites.
15:27:03 <IanN> Hopefully final will be out early December
15:27:58 <frg> For updates we need to find a solution switching to a different update url afterwards.
15:29:13 <frg> Oh maybe not app.update.url already pointing to our server.
15:30:10 <IanN> frg: yeah, that's already sorted
15:32:29 <IanN> Extensions Tracking
15:33:42 <frg> bau. Still not trying to introduce new breakage :)
15:34:02 <IanN> we do try
15:34:50 <rsx11m> as long as you aren't successful with that ;-)
15:35:22 <tomman> Move Fast And Break Things!
15:36:40 <frg> It needs to happen now and then but hopefully the worst is over. There are some compartment to realm changes in later js fixes. I hope this does not affect add-ons
15:37:05 <IanN> ditto
15:37:08 <frg> We also started with fluent translations. This could end up bad too :)
15:38:56 <IanN> 2.Next, Feature List, Planning & Roundtable
15:39:59 <rsx11m> IanN is moving fast today 8-)
15:40:06 <frg> bau but mozilla is switching from Mercurial to git. Might affect us upstream. Not happy about it. Mercurial is so much better when it comes to patch management.
15:40:33 <IanN> frg: yeah, agreed but I saw that coming
15:41:05 <tomman> kids can't live without Giggityhub nowadays :/
15:41:16 <tomman> it's basically the only thing they know, and Mozilla knows this
15:41:48 <rsx11m> hope they are at least providing decent instructions ...
15:42:26 <rsx11m> ... like "don't rebase the master branch" etc.
15:42:32 <njsg> I think the only announcement I saw so far was about Firefox, so will it affect comm-central? or is the switch just for mozilla-central?
15:42:46 <frg> They move to github. Might affect checkin right for comm-central becuase mZLA will follow 100%.
15:43:03 <frg> I hate phab and gitbub both.
15:43:25 <njsg> [my comment on github requires javascript to be rendered]
15:45:02 <rsx11m> let's go back to cvs, shall we? :-p
15:45:15 <IanN> urgh
15:45:29 <frg> svn urgk++
15:45:39 <WG9s> Or maybe Walgreens
15:46:40 <frg> I take CA librarian over it but maybe we should continue :)
15:47:47 <IanN> AOB
15:47:50 <frg> Hey still alive :) https://ftpdocs.broadcom.com/cadocs/0/CA%20Librarian%20%204%204-ENU/Bookshelf.html
15:47:58 <frg> AOB bau
15:48:30 <frg> Big release at work so if I don't shoot myself I will probably be busy in the next two weeks.
15:50:43 <IanN> urgh broadcom
15:51:22 <frg> Yeah they bought all the CA stuff. CA Telon too.  Was great then but probably dead now.
15:51:29 <IanN> thanks for your time today. Next meeting in 3 weeks time, same bat channel, same bat time
15:51:36 <frg> cu
15:51:56 <rsx11m> December 10th then!
15:52:05 <rsx11m> almost done with 2023...
15:52:11 <WG9s> Bye for now
15:52:12 <njsg> rsx11m: not 3?
15:52:57 <rsx11m> argh, you are right ...
15:54:22 <rsx11m> corrected, thanks!
15:54:36 <rsx11m> my calendar must have been out of sync ;-)
15:54:40 <IanN> and we may have one on 17th too, as 24th is too Christmasy
15:54:41 <tomman> December 3th, so... 11:00 VET in my case
15:55:30 <rsx11m> IanN: 31st isn't much better, but we can discuss next time
15:56:05 <IanN> yeah probably 17th then 7th Jan
15:56:15 <IanN> yes, discussion for next meeting
15:56:38 <rsx11m> ^^yepp, my thinking too
15:57:26 <rsx11m> or we combine 3rd and 17th into the 10th, then January 7th ;-)
15:58:02 <IanN> too complicated :P
15:58:27 <rsx11m> ok, let's stick with December 3rd 15:00 UTC for now 8-)
15:58:38 <IanN> yeah, thanks
15:58:46 <njsg> unless there's some holiday, for december, 17th probably works well, it's probably better to have two meetings (so 3rd plus 17th) rather than one?
15:59:20 <njsg> (That is, meetings on the 3rd and 17th, not two on the 20th)
16:00:04 <rsx11m> I think we'll go with 3rd and 17th now, but can finalize on the 3rd
16:00:24 <rsx11m> sorry for adding more confusion...
16:02:14 <njsg> For January what I fear is that the 7th might have some holiday or feast as well (for me that date is fine, I think)
16:03:35 <rsx11m> well, it's the holiday season, so many people travel one day or the other
16:04:03 <tomman> 7th here is fine, it's just one day after start of Epiphany in Hispanic countries
16:04:13 <tomman> well, assuming you're not in the road, of course
16:04:15 <rsx11m> happy Thanksgiving soon, by the way!
16:04:53 <IanN> for those that do it...
16:05:08 <rsx11m> my point, it varies ;-)
16:05:52 <njsg> when is thanksgiving?
16:06:17 <rsx11m> 23rd, if my calendar is correct
16:06:23 <njsg> date: invalid date 'thanksgiving' <-- well, that didn't work
16:06:43 <rsx11m> 11 days from now
16:08:50 <rsx11m> ok, happy whatever-you-celebrate then!
16:08:54 <rsx11m> see you next time
16:10:19 <IanN> c u rsx11m