09:59:03 <njsg> oooh, fancy, curlie.org does not set a background color?
10:00:25 <njsg> tomman: now it would be nice if they could put that info somewhere - yes, good that they've got it explicit in readable code, but maybe a message to the JS console saying "needs BigInt"?
10:01:05 <njsg> antiplatonick: network issues?
10:01:23 <njsg> (or maybe it's broadcom wifi?)
20:05:37 <tomman> https://quii.dev/HTMX_is_the_Future "stop writing JS webshit, use my JS-less webshit instead!"
20:05:39 <tomman> how about no
20:05:41 <tomman> also, 1993 called, it wants its "hypermedia" hype back
23:37:12 <njsg> JS-less? what does that entail?
23:38:09 <njsg> oh, it's one of these you-must-zoom-out sites? :-P
23:41:09 <tomman> this guys proposes using something called "HTMX", which is basically Let's Add More Attributes To HTML™
23:42:12 <njsg> Oh, I need to read more, scrolling through it sounded like reverse JSONx
23:43:17 <tomman> https://htmx.org/ it's this
23:43:34 <tomman> https://unpkg.com/browse/htmx.org⊙1/dist/
23:43:43 <tomman> which -surprise- it's Yet Another JavaScript Library!
23:44:43 <tomman> but at least it looks like it's tiny (a few kilobytes) and claims IE11 compatibility, so there is that
23:47:51 <tomman> "How it supports non-JavaScript": with JavaScript, of course
23:48:26 <tomman> however, the blogpage claims it works even without JS turned on in the client