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jonadab
tomman: I tend to agree. Apart from maybe live streams, most use cases would be better served by just tossing an .mpeg file up on a web server and linking to it.
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jonadab
But nobody ever does that any more. Heck, most folks don't even do that with PDFs any more, they have to give you some crazy-horrible in-page PDF viewer.
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tomman
jonadab: to be fair, I'm fine with PDFs inside browsers
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tomman
they're a DOCUMENT format, after all
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tomman
and one that is more suitable for the Internet than raw $OFFICE_SUITE documents
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tomman
but yeah, another layer of complexity, etc.
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tomman
I do not want to deal with binary plugins for that (hello Adobe! And rot in hell!)
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tomman
Multimedia formats however are something I enjoy on an application suitable for the task, which is not and will never be a web browser
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therube
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tomman
"At the same time, 99.999999% people are exposed to possible vulnerabilities hidden in this codec. It's just not worth it."
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tomman
gotta love the sekuritah FUD as an argument to nuke Theora
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tomman
...but on the flip side, Theora has been deader than dead for the last decade
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tomman
basically only Wikipedia cared, until they didn't
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tomman
Having said that, the fact Google is directing this effort to kill things they don't like (because of NIH, mainly) doesn't surprise me
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tomman
it just shows how strong is their iron fist over the Internet standards these days
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tomman
if Bill Gates were dead, he would be revolting on his grave
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MattATobin
of hexchat crashing on here
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MattATobin
sick of*
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MattATobin
frg_Away: kicking the xulorg xr now btw
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frg_Away
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frg_Away
Well lots of things that would make the internet a better place. They could start with wasm, then web components including shadow dom, then service workers and then later theora and a few other things :)
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tomman
Theora is one of those rare things that put me into a dilemma: noone would shed a tear if it went away overnight and silently, but the fact Chrome is spearheading the effort to bury it basically makes me to react in anger, even if I have never encoded anything into that codec :D
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tomman
if Mozilla had been the first one to give it the proverbial boot into the buttocks to Theora, we would have heard a few angry words from some hardcore FOSS nerds, but that's it
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tomman
but nope, Chrome did it first, and Mozilla specifically cites THAT as a reason
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frg_Away
same with jpeg xl I think. But another format I do not miss.
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tomman
JPEG XL wasn't even given a chance to fight :/
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tomman
death by committee because Google had to push WebP
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tomman
Theora got their chance and flopped miserably, because 90% of the planet doesn't care about the MPEG-LA mafia cartel
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frg_Away
webp another formant I wouldn't miss :)
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MattATobin
frg_Away: no xr.thereisonlyxul.org
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MattATobin
is where those sources will be
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MattATobin
binoc's will ride off the same instance tho
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MattATobin
it will be ncie to have ALL the codebases searchable again
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MattATobin
the ONLY difference between xulorg and binoc's xr is that BinOC's will have non-mozilla projects and not so many archives listed and xulorg won't have non-mozilla binoc stuff and will have all the historical trees we are accustom to
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MattATobin
I'll have the php bit send people around to the correct domain when relevant via url which covers the perl generated dropdowns between similar trees
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MattATobin
all trivial stuff
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MattATobin
just time consuming
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MattATobin
cause reindexing what 20 some trees
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MattATobin
lol
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frg_Away
Thanks. Will update my link and the one in the wiki when I update the notes.
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Guest57
good day
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Guest57
I flashed my Bios on a chromebook and installed linux thought no F11 key
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Guest57
Would be nice to have a full screen button on the navigation tool bar
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Guest57
Is everyone sleeping here?
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tomman
wat, Chromebooks do not have function keys?
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Guest57
they do but not all of them
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Guest57
i do not have it with me i think f1 to F9
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tomman
then, what about a Fn+another key combo?
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Guest57
I would change the combo if it is possible
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Guest57
also there is no Del key for ctrl shift del - clear history
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tomman
you can't change hotkeys on a vanilla setup of any Mozilla product
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tomman
wonder if there is an extension for that
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Guest57
Fire fox has a full screen button on latest version on the navigation bar
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Guest57
plus the chromebook has a good touchscreen interface
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tomman
oh, that would be indeed a good compromise, but there is no fullscreen button on SeaMonkey either, just the menubar entry and F11
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Guest57
a full screen button option for the navigation bar would be easiest for most users
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Guest57
was thinking the developers might add a button for the navigation bar r i am requesting this
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tomman
addons.thunderbird.net/EN-us/seamonkey/addon/toolbar-buttons this addon MIGHT had what you're looking for, but I don't know if it works on recent releases of SeaMonkey
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tomman
and from what I've seen in my brief 60-second search, you're not the first looking for a fullscreen button
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Guest57
well my battery is almost gone, I will check your link, and maybe the developers might add a button to the navigation bar next releases cycle
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tomman
I wouldn't hold my breath for that, given that very few people have been looking for one (although in 2007, touchscreens were not a thing on laptops), but I would definitely try to get that addon working