15:04:52 <therube> no real idea what it means, but, GTK4: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=30421
15:13:48 <tomman> basically a GNOME doesn't want to service non-GNOME apps, simple
15:14:18 <tomman> "come up with your own toolkit if you wanna Wayland hard, but don't use us anymore because we're too busy Pushing! Things! Forward!"
15:14:46 <tomman> ironically, a line they borrowed from Mozilla and Gecko
15:18:24 <tomman> also remember that GNOME is on track to dump X11 by next year because they don't like dinosaurs
16:08:43 <a-865> X11 version on Fedora is 2 years old
16:11:52 <jonadab> Eh, if it won't run on potato, it's dead to me ;-)
16:12:36 <jonadab> (Not actually true.  In point of fact, I haven't attempted to run any distro older than Sarge for decades.)
16:12:53 <jonadab> (Well, one decade at least.)
16:13:04 <jonadab> (Which is like, seven decades in software age time.)
20:44:27 <therube> some will say that my Win7 is outdated.  some will say i am outdated ;-) .
20:54:28 <frg_Away> therube just updated my 7 laptop with latest patches. Still works fine :)
20:55:40 <tomman> dinosaurs, unite~!