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6 Oct 2023

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• 16:01
  therube
  "Private browsing ... users who want to start anew need to close all private browsing windows and launch a new one to do so"
• 16:01
  therube
  i often wondered if that was "sufficient", or simply opening a new, different Private Window was OK.
• 16:01
  therube
  i'm going to have to test the behavior (in SM)
• 16:01
  therube
  nsaneforums.com/news/security-priva…et-private-browsing-sessions-r19190
• 16:02
  frg_Away
  therube the most useless feature in a browser. They will track you anyway.
• 16:03
  therube
  what's that Private Browsing? i don't use it for "privacy" reasons.
• 16:04
  therube
  but if i'm opening a trash site, i'm likely to use Private Window. or if i'm testing multiple logins to the same entity kind of thing...
• 16:04
  therube
  heh. even the link i posted, i opened in a Private Window ;-)
• 16:05
  frg_Away
  If I want to open a trash site I use a vm and the most generic browser possible.
• 16:08
  therube
  had the weirdest thing happen yesterday.
• 16:08
  therube
  i opened, costco.com/CatalogSearch?dept=All&keyword=candy, heh - in a Private Window (no less), & got a 'Secure Connection Failed' message (& the site did not load, obviously). 'Try again' also failed.
• 16:08
  therube
  opened the same link in a regular window, & it loaded.
• 16:08
  therube
  opened a new Profile & the link opened both in regular & Private modes.
• 16:08
  therube
  (left browser open)
• 16:08
  therube
  today, i hit 'Try again' - in Private Window, & no 'Secure Connection Failed' message & the site loaded. odd.
• 16:09
  therube
  well, to me, Private Browsing is essentially a VM
• 16:11
  nikolam
  I have been tryint o use SM2 days ago, and I have seen plenty of sites, not rendering properly, wrong locations of elements on pages, maybe in corellation with old Noscript, even I enabled important scripts..
• 16:12
  nikolam
  Any info on maybe SM3 web suite development with the newer Gecko and else.. ?
• 16:14
  therube
  hopefully never ;-)
• 16:17
  nikolam
  therube, for SM2 it's probably like that.. ;)
• 18:38
  therube
  contrary to what was surmised above (at least how i understand it) - at least in FF 115esr, simply closing all "Private Windows" does not then allow you to have a "new set" of Private Windows.
• 18:38
  therube
  from what i can tell, an actual browser restart is required.
• 18:39
  therube
  as it is, i log in - Private, then close all Private Windows, then open a new Private Window, visit same site, & i'm still logged in.
• 18:40
  therube
  so if FF implements such a "clear Private" button, that would be useful, IMO. (Now, given that it would happen, later, given that FF 118 won't even run [on my end] in Win7, i'll never see that feature.)
• 18:42
  njsg
  nikolam_: no, the path forward is to backport at least some of these newer features as needed, as that becomes possible
• 18:42
  njsg
  nikolam_: note that while the version is still 2.53.*, it already includes stuff from 60 and beyond
• 18:43
  njsg
  I don't mean everything, I mean some things are already in. There might even be things 2.53 has that 2.57 doesn't have.
• 19:15
  therube
  looking again, it did seem to "clean up" - without restarting the browser, so at this point, not sure - unless something "leaked"?