03:21:10 LINKS to resources* 03:21:14 I should have specificed 03:21:20 links to resources 03:22:24 now that I have mastered the black magic of fake certs I can do anything on the SecureWeb(tm) 03:22:37 free certs 03:22:38 free 03:22:40 .. 03:22:45 free fake certs 07:50:45 what free certs 09:44:01 frg_Away the actual message is: Your SeaMonkey profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible. 09:46:57 I have given it: --profile /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/ AND -P /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/profiles.ini (It has been running well for years, [puppy linux is root user]) 09:51:11 if I am not able to get it going: is there a way to access the ".jsonlz4" bookmark backups? eg: /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/otlouo9v.default/bookmarkbackups/bookmarks-2023-09-28_31_5BCbNNNuC4B7WdNnQzLmHg==.jsonlz4 11:44:08 my seamonkey fails to start, the actual message is: Your SeaMonkey profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible. 11:44:40 I have given it: --profile /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/ AND -P /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/profiles.ini (It has been running well for years, [puppy linux is root user]) 11:45:55 what is the name of the config file and where does seamonkey look for it? 12:14:42 the profiles.ini http://sprunge.us/1Bvf5l 15:03:31 can anybody suggest where I might get some assistance with my problem of getting seamonkey to run? 16:54:34 next on the agenda, libvpx. kind of gets old, no. 16:54:36 see, if they used system libraries, you could simply update libvpx itself instead of needing to update the entire browser ;-). 17:49:24 next coffin nail for SeaMonkey - today live.com stopped working with SeaMonkey and hangs after the login prompt 18:08:22 guest_: looks like i set up an outlook.com account back in 2018, & just logged in, successfully. 18:08:24 https://outlook.live.com/mail/0/ 18:08:25 i have a handful of messages 2018 .. 2023 that display. 18:08:27 haven't actually looked at them, nor have i tried any other "features", but log in was successfully, & i do see i do have messages. 18:09:02 i'm on SeaMonkey/2.53.18 Build identifier: 20230917210002, if that might make a difference? 18:17:28 tomman: thanks for that link on webp. i bet that exploit, or similar, is also what led to the libvpx issue. 18:24:32 tried it with 2.53.18 Build 20230923120000 - it hangs while displaying the animated envelope. 18:26:27 SyntaxError: bad method definition .../scripts/owa.mailindex.js 18:34:59 heh. in FF, i typed in, about:config, jxl, & set it to true. then, i think to other (jxl) prefs came up, but i'm totally floored by the UI? 18:35:16 in any case, seemingly will only work on Nightly (where i have esr) 18:56:20 for ripspin: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_cannot_be_loaded 19:03:09 ripspin I had problem heere as non root but root should be able to access it. Maybe start with -profileManager and see if you can create a new test profile. 19:21:52 something weird just happened... threw in 2.53.16, opened it, checked for updates update said there was an update available dismissed the dialog & quit. then, i tried to load SeaMonkey again (at least i think i did), but "nothing" happened. checked, & there was no task, so not sure if i did or didn't. so tried again... this time it says VCRUNTIME140.dll is missing, & looking, it surely is... 19:21:54 ...- along with xul.dll ? 19:22:48 i unpacked the .exe installer (as i always do) to get "SeaMonkey", & then ran seamonkey.exe -profile PROFILE (so bypassing Profile Manager...) 19:24:40 i see update.mar did download, so ? 19:31:00 when i say i checked for updates ... & dismissed, i didn't dismiss, immediately - the dialog had remained open for some time & presumably during that time SeaMonkey automatically downloaded the .mar 19:31:18 i'm waiting presently to see if it does the same again... 19:32:24 ah, OK, active-update.xml & /updates/ so the .mar is there now... 19:33:50 click 'X' on the update dialog (vcruntime & xul still there)... Quit (vcruntime & xul still there) 19:33:53 aha! 19:34:26 tried to restart, & with that "nothing" happened, but vcruntime (both of them) & xul.dll are now missing 19:34:55 so now, if i try to (again) start SeaMonkey, i'll get the vcruntime error message :-) 19:35:06 sure enough. 19:35:51 now, the question - why did that happen like that? 19:37:37 anew. 19:38:19 install. open. check. dismiss the Check dialog, immediately. keep SM open & wait for .mar to turn up... 19:57:30 oh, are *automatic* updates working? or will something only happen on a Check? (cause so far, active-update.xml has not turned up) 19:58:15 oops wrong! i was looking at the parent directory, so say nothing. but it is there, so... 19:59:37 Quit... same thing. vcruntime & xul.dll are gone on an attempt open. 19:59:58 so specifically keeping the Check for updates dialog open had no bearing on the matter. 20:00:53 so now the question is, why is that actual update failing (on my end at least, from 2.53.16 release to 2.53.17.1, per the .mar) 20:16:37 therube libvpx issue is in the encoder. Will backport it but should not affect SeaMonkey becuase webrtc is offcially not supported. 20:21:24 update from 2.53.17 to 2.53.17.1 looks to be failing in the same way, vcruntimes & xul get deleted - at least the way i've gone about things. 20:25:12 therube did a quick test two days ago and was ok. Anyway just using the full installer is safer anyway. 20:27:10 it wouldn't be because i "unzip'd" the .exe installer, as there should be no difference between that a ZIP download (& update) 20:28:46 in the borked "install", in addition to the missing files, there are; api-ms-win-core-console-l1-2-0.dll, msvcp140_codecvt_ids.dll & msvcp140_atomic_wait.dll that are not in (WG9s version... maybe that is expected ? not sure ?) 20:28:48 If you are running an av check if the files got swallowed. 20:28:56 frg_Away: no. 20:30:02 i'll try an actual install of .16 installer (sandboxed), & see what happens with that, but will have to wait till tomorrow (or so) 20:33:03 frg_Away: 20:33:05 FINISH ADD xul.dll 20:33:07 backup_restore: backup file doesn't exist: xul.dll.moz-backup 20:33:09 FINISH ADD vcruntime140_1.dll 20:33:11 backup_restore: backup file doesn't exist: vcruntime140_1.dll.moz-backup 20:33:12 ... 20:33:14 failed: 7 20:33:15 calling QuitProgressUI 20:33:17 now, maybe it is my end, i don't "install", i don't "install" (unpack) to any "typical" location, & don't use Profiles that are in "typical" locations. i'm atypical :-) 20:34:54 i know, with earlier versions, where i simply copy my "local" install into someone else's computer, that they have successfully auto-updated - in the past (don't know about current, as i "pushed" my update to them, so any auto-update was bypassed) 20:38:10 therube I removed from unused stuff from the installer but there were not any functional changes I am aware of. 20:44:30 gotta run...