oh boy

Mega no longer works on SeaMonkey, it craps on me with a "Your browser seems a bit outdated"

and their recommended browsers are Chrome, MS Chrome, and Chrome - FF is merely announced as "supported"

clicking any link would send you to mega.nz/update.html

"Our recommended browsers fully support MEGA's advanced HTML5 functionality, quickly add support for new web standards and provide timely security updates. "

ah well, at least JDownloader is still a thing~

function(error) {

if (error || !window.es6s) {

document.location = (is_extension ? '' : '/') + 'update.html';

return;

}

"window.onload/< mega.nz/secureboot.js:3770:21"

there are the features they test,and the script is NOT minified!

'es6s =' +

' ({...{a:23}}).a === 23' + // C60 E79 F55 O47 S11

' && Promise.prototype.finally' + // C63 E18 F58 O50 S11

' && typeof ReadableStream === "function"' + // C43 E14 F65 O30 S10

' && (Array.prototype.values === Array.prototype[Symbol.iterator])' + // C66 E12 F60 O53 S9

' && (function *(a=1,){yield a})(2).next().value === 2', // C58 E14 F52 O45 S10

nice, they put minimum versions on the comments

which one is triggering here?

typeof ReadableStream === "function" => this one, FF65

must be a very recent change then, because Mega worked fine last month here

gotta give credits to the Mega devs for actually declaring which fancy JS features they want, complete with minimum versions per browser, and with non-minified code

they still SUCK anyway

Windows is so bad that Chrome OS is somewhat preferable.

At least it has Linux applications now and doesn't shit itself with viruses and bad updates.

You absolutely can run SeaMonkey on a Chromebook. It's just not the most straightforward thing to set up.

Also, the comparison of Windows 11 vs Chrome OS on a typical sub-$200 laptop is hardly close.

Windows barely runs at all and Chromebooks make you wonder how they run so well on a Celeron with 4 GB RAM.

I would never use Chrome OS or Windows 11 anyway

"advanced HTML5 functionality", I think that's already a bit of a red flag , "quickly add support for new web standards" okay, now that just shows they don't know much about this, because if they knew, they'd know part of the problem is most of it isn't from any standard...

in one site, I've been able to get past ReadableStream by toggling the streams about:config preferences, but I didn't check about what the site is doing exactly and what do the preferences toggle compared to that.

tomman: ^

Is there such a thing as working Youtube audio on SM/Linux without pulseaudio installed? It works in Palemoon and Chromium with only libpulse pluse pipewire/wireplumber..

Is there such a thing as working Youtube audio on SM/Linux without pulseaudio installed? It works in Palemoon and Chromium with only libpulse plus pipewire/wireplumber..

a-865: last I checked it just worked with alsa (requires compiling for alsa, though)

so I guess SM public builds are committed to following upstream in demanding the anachronism :(

a-865: I don't watch videos in web browsers anyway - for that I use mpv + yt-dlp

(I still belong that moving pictures do not belong to interactive document viewers, but then I'm a dinosaur)

as for Pulse, isn't it old news? The rage these days is Pipewire

and on many new distros, Pulse is emulated through Pipewire

youtube has howtos not found elsewhere

hard to avoid

apulse doesn't help

gah, I hate video tutorials, but yeah, I would use yt-dlp with those

I hate them too, but they are what is

yeah, nobody likes writing walls of text these days :/

probably no one knows how any more

everything happens on a cellphone

Well media playback/handling on Linux is a mess. Code probably needs some updates from upstream Mozilla but this will take some time.

a-865: do you know what exactly doesn't work with apulse? I don't think I can test that directly anytime soon, but just in case...

njsg: nothing I recognize

# journalctl -b | egrep -i 'fail|puls|irep|alsa'

Sep 24 13:10:36 00srv rpc.statd[528]: Failed to create listener xprt (statd, 1, udp6)

Sep 24 13:10:36 00srv rpc.statd[528]: Failed to create listener xprt (statd, 1, tcp6)

Sep 24 13:12:25 00srv wireplumber[994]: Can't find org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop. Is xdg-desktop-portal running?

Sep 24 13:12:25 00srv wireplumber[994]: found session bus but no portal

Sep 24 13:12:25 00srv rtkit-daemon[1004]: Successfully made thread 994 of process 994 (/usr/bin/wireplumber) owned by '1050' high priority at nice level -11.

Sep 24 13:12:25 00srv rtkit-daemon[1004]: Successfully made thread 1025 of process 994 (/usr/bin/wireplumber) owned by '1050' RT at priority 20.

Sep 24 13:12:26 00srv wireplumber[994]: Failed to set scheduler settings: Operation not permitted

Sep 24 13:12:26 00srv wireplumber[994]: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner

Sep 24 13:12:25 00srv systemd[985]: Listening on PipeWire Multimedia System Socket.

Sep 24 13:12:25 00srv systemd[985]: Started PipeWire Multimedia Service.

Sep 24 13:12:25 00srv pipewire[993]: mod.rt: Can't find org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop. Is xdg-desktop-portal running?

Sep 24 13:12:25 00srv pipewire[993]: mod.rt: found session bus but no portal