11:30:26 hi #SeaMonkey, can anyone check if OverbiteFF is working in your suite? I can't seem to load any Gopher page here. Thanks 11:36:20 It needs a mini update. njsg should know. 11:37:19 Ah found it https://hg.mozilla.org/chatzilla/rev/75c8c75015bc5afdf7930a834f599fe1c04f6eca 11:38:22 ah cool, thanks 11:38:25 I do not run it but these you need to remove the second and third parameter from the init. 11:38:54 unfortunately I doubt floodgap is ever going to update OverbiteFF for this, but fortunately I've been planning to fork this extension anyway 11:39:02 Just search for it. Different file. The patch patch was for cZ. 11:40:11 if it still not runs probably nsIPrefBranch2 or nsIPrefBranchInternel needs to be changes to nsIPrefBranch. 11:40:58 Bug 1374847 was backported 11:44:31 thanks, the pump.init change worked! :D 11:45:17 If you fork it and have a working version up on github or gitlab we can change the reference to it in SeaMonkey. 11:56:25 mimasama: I don't think I've ever asked, did you hear from Cameron about this? Just wondering if he has commented on this issue. 11:57:02 it's possible he's happy to update it with a version that works for both arities but just doesn't know about the issue 11:58:10 I think I wrote the line number somewhere, now was it on IRC or on USENET? Well, if you already got it working, no need for it, but let me check... 11:59:10 I don't know if Cameron has heard about it (I don't have his contact), but it seems that according to the official page of the extension, OverbiteFF is no longer supported: http://gopher.floodgap.com/overbite/d?ff38 11:59:44 so pretty unlikely he will update it 11:59:49 line 1255 components/protocol.js news://news.neodome.net/udhd96$ngl$1⊙dm 12:00:45 I did the if check for both cases 12:08:58 (maybe the ircbot code needs a change so that it does not mangle news: addresses... I keep forgetting to percent-encode the @) 12:10:16 for the logbot: above URL was news://news.neodome.net/udhd96$ngl$1%40dont-email.me 13:01:03 Initial release: http://geidontei.chaotic.ninja/usr/mima/nazrin/ 18:08:24 The Twit-- X™ embeddable widget now causes extreme slowdowns too 18:08:34 no, it has been causing slowdowns for weeks 18:08:41 but I thought it was more of a host site issue 18:08:46 but nope, it happens with several sites 18:08:56 too bad Redirector can't catch those ones 18:10:15 yes, the fact The Social Network Formerly Known As Twitter remains relevant among the population still confuses the hell out of me 18:10:35 but now I'm this close of just blocking Twitter domains on my routerbox DNS 18:48:48 https://matrix.org/blog/2023/09/matrix-2-0/ 18:48:50 "TL;DR: If you want to play with a shiny new Matrix 2.0 client, head over to Element X." 18:48:52 why not rename the whole thing as Element then? It seems it's the only client that matters anyway 19:55:30 I would be interested in knowing about such a fork. It's a shame that Mozilla dropped tiny little gopher, and ftp, and added Web blobs and direct access to the GPU and tons of other massive actual vulnerabilities. 19:56:06 because that's what webdevs love, they call it "Pushing Things Forward™" because OMG SHINY! 19:56:38 they don't care about security, or even compatibility, they care about padding their resumes 20:00:06 The only reason I keep LibreWolf around even is because Chromium's extensions model already sabotages privacy extensions and they've promised to bring the hammer down some more. 20:00:37 If Mozilla follows them on that one I'm gone like Enron. I keep everything backed up into Brave for Contingency. 20:26:33 you know Brave is Chrome, right? 20:26:51 we should not be supporting the new IE 20:27:04 no, not even as a fallback 20:55:57 For Fedora Linux, 2.53.17.1 (with libwebp security fixes) goes onto CentOS-7 and the generic build only. All the others Fedoras and CentOS-8 use system libwebp, which is already updated by the ordinary distribution way, so no need for the extra update there. 20:57:32 The same is probably true for the other distros (if SM-2.53.17 was built with the distro's system libwebp). 21:10:43 buc has two other sec fixes and one for Windows. 21:52:04 Debian/Ubuntu tossed SeaMonkey a long time ago so anything that builds off of those probably tosses it too. 21:52:10 No system libs for you! 21:52:52 I definitely recall Ubuntu complaining that "SeaMonkey isn't up to date with security fixes anyway." Like, just turn off active content. It's so much more pleasant anyway. 21:53:17 Redundant image formats give us MOAR codec hell. 21:53:59 As if WebP wasn't bad enough, 9to5linux is now using both WebP and AVIF on the same site, and SeaMonkey is not the only browser I have that can't render the AVIF junk. 21:54:55 There should be a law that 1992 JPEG is the only thing allowed on the Web. No, an international treaty, modeled after the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban. 22:12:28 The "use system libs" has been a endless point of contention between upstream and downstream developers 22:12:56 there are good points from both sides 22:13:21 so reaching a compromise is tough, especially from projects as big and complex as modern web browsers 22:14:01 there are very good reasons to enable building with system libs, but there are also strong points in favor of vendored-in dependencies