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mimasama
hi #SeaMonkey, can anyone check if OverbiteFF is working in your suite? I can't seem to load any Gopher page here. Thanks
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frg_Away
It needs a mini update. njsg should know.
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frg_Away
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mimasama
ah cool, thanks
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frg_Away
I do not run it but these you need to remove the second and third parameter from the init.
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mimasama
unfortunately I doubt floodgap is ever going to update OverbiteFF for this, but fortunately I've been planning to fork this extension anyway
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frg_Away
Just search for it. Different file. The patch patch was for cZ.
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frg_Away
if it still not runs probably nsIPrefBranch2 or nsIPrefBranchInternel needs to be changes to nsIPrefBranch.
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frg_Away
Bug 1374847 was backported
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mimasama
thanks, the pump.init change worked! :D
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frg_Away
If you fork it and have a working version up on github or gitlab we can change the reference to it in SeaMonkey.
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njsg
mimasama: I don't think I've ever asked, did you hear from Cameron about this? Just wondering if he has commented on this issue.
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njsg
it's possible he's happy to update it with a version that works for both arities but just doesn't know about the issue
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njsg
I think I wrote the line number somewhere, now was it on IRC or on USENET? Well, if you already got it working, no need for it, but let me check...
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mimasama
I don't know if Cameron has heard about it (I don't have his contact), but it seems that according to the official page of the extension, OverbiteFF is no longer supported:
gopher.floodgap.com/overbite/d?ff38
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mimasama
so pretty unlikely he will update it
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njsg
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mimasama
I did the if check for both cases
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njsg
(maybe the ircbot code needs a change so that it does not mangle news: addresses... I keep forgetting to percent-encode the @)
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njsg
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mimasama
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tomman
The Twit-- X™ embeddable widget now causes extreme slowdowns too
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tomman
no, it has been causing slowdowns for weeks
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tomman
but I thought it was more of a host site issue
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tomman
but nope, it happens with several sites
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tomman
too bad Redirector can't catch those ones
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tomman
yes, the fact The Social Network Formerly Known As Twitter remains relevant among the population still confuses the hell out of me
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tomman
but now I'm this close of just blocking Twitter domains on my routerbox DNS
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tomman
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tomman
"TL;DR: If you want to play with a shiny new Matrix 2.0 client, head over to Element X."
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tomman
why not rename the whole thing as Element then? It seems it's the only client that matters anyway
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alinoge
I would be interested in knowing about such a fork. It's a shame that Mozilla dropped tiny little gopher, and ftp, and added Web blobs and direct access to the GPU and tons of other massive actual vulnerabilities.
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tomman
because that's what webdevs love, they call it "Pushing Things Forward™" because OMG SHINY!
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tomman
they don't care about security, or even compatibility, they care about padding their resumes
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alinoge
The only reason I keep LibreWolf around even is because Chromium's extensions model already sabotages privacy extensions and they've promised to bring the hammer down some more.
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alinoge
If Mozilla follows them on that one I'm gone like Enron. I keep everything backed up into Brave for Contingency.
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tomman
you know Brave is Chrome, right?
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tomman
we should not be supporting the new IE
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tomman
no, not even as a fallback
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buc
For Fedora Linux, 2.53.17.1 (with libwebp security fixes) goes onto CentOS-7 and the generic build only. All the others Fedoras and CentOS-8 use system libwebp, which is already updated by the ordinary distribution way, so no need for the extra update there.
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buc
The same is probably true for the other distros (if SM-2.53.17 was built with the distro's system libwebp).
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frg_Away
buc has two other sec fixes and one for Windows.
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alinoge
Debian/Ubuntu tossed SeaMonkey a long time ago so anything that builds off of those probably tosses it too.
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alinoge
No system libs for you!
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alinoge
I definitely recall Ubuntu complaining that "SeaMonkey isn't up to date with security fixes anyway." Like, just turn off active content. It's so much more pleasant anyway.
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alinoge
Redundant image formats give us MOAR codec hell.
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alinoge
As if WebP wasn't bad enough, 9to5linux is now using both WebP and AVIF on the same site, and SeaMonkey is not the only browser I have that can't render the AVIF junk.
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alinoge
There should be a law that 1992 JPEG is the only thing allowed on the Web. No, an international treaty, modeled after the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban.
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tomman
The "use system libs" has been a endless point of contention between upstream and downstream developers
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tomman
there are good points from both sides
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tomman
so reaching a compromise is tough, especially from projects as big and complex as modern web browsers
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tomman
there are very good reasons to enable building with system libs, but there are also strong points in favor of vendored-in dependencies