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IsambardPrince
At the current rate of lost users, Firefox won't be a viable product in 5 or 6 years.
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IsambardPrince
So SeaMonkey may outlive Firefox _and_ Mozilla.
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IsambardPrince
From the meeting notes, it looks like what happens to Mozilla doesn't actually matter much to SeaMonkey at this point since they don't want to do anything to assist it and continue making unpopular decisions for Firefox that continue to spawn forks of even Firefox.
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tomman
and instead IE will win
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tomman
ooops, it's Chrome
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tomman
if Mozilla dies, that's the day I'll quit Internet and computers for good
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tomman
and I'm pretty much serious on that
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tomman
I do not want to live in a World of Chrome™
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IsambardPrince
Mitchell Baker is a pet of Google.
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IsambardPrince
She stays and never does anything to oppose what they want. Meanwhile, they lose 43,200 Firefox users per day.
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IsambardPrince
That's kind of a problem when you're losing a Cook County, Illinois worth of users roughly 3.5 months.
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IsambardPrince
That's a rate of attrition that rapidly destabilizes something like a Web browser company and could get a fair bit worse.
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IsambardPrince
This is based on their own statistics.
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IsambardPrince
Making Firefox look and act like Chrome obviously didn't work. It's time to declare "Try anything once." and try something else.
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IsambardPrince
Like actually giving the users control of the browser again.
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IsambardPrince
They say they use telemetry to justify everything, including their decision to remove the GUI option to disable active scripting.
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IsambardPrince
Is it plausible that SeaMonkey will support the WebExtension and maintained versions of ubo and NoScript at some point?
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IsambardPrince
On a more positive note. I can no longer read about the layoffs in SeaMonkey through Layoff Tracker. Their chart no longer works, and neither do the lies about the COVID shots from the Illinois state government. You just wait and the Web gets less and less irritating.
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IsambardPrince
No more layoffs. No more COVID updates. They rely on the same Microsoft server sending Chrome spew.
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tomman
wonder what Chromeism-of-the-week™ they're relying now
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tomman
or simply yet another consumer of dynamic imports
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franstam
why is Pale Moon not in contention?
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IsambardPrince
I can shop on Walmart.com with SeaMonkey but not Firefox.
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IsambardPrince
Firefox has a glitch where you can't check out and select a pickup time for your order.
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IsambardPrince
It's kind of funny that Walmart doesn't care if people using Firefox can order anything from them or not.
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IsambardPrince
Rotten Tomatoes stopped working. When did that happen?
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job
The day Mozilla dies will be the day of the rebirth of small web. I am actively hoping for the collapse of this corporation within my lifetime
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IsambardPrince
Controlled opposition.
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IsambardPrince
Saying that Mozilla isn't a branch of Google is like saying that Belarus isn't a part of Russia.
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IsambardPrince
Technically, it isn't.
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njsg
IsambardPrince: Rotten Tomatoes has been broken for a long time, I think
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njsg
but I haven't been checking