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20 Aug 2023

Surfing the net has never been so suite | SeaMonkey Release:2.53.20 Beta:2.53.20b1| seamonkey-project.org/releases | This channel is logged at logbot.thereisonlyxul.org/seamonkey | SeaMonkey Nightly:2.53.21b1pre Archive archive.seamonkey-project.org/nightly | c-c (OPEN ) , c-253 (APPROVAL ONLY)

• 11:33
  frg_Away
  Off toppic: If anyone is using vbox under 7 8.1: forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=540115#p540115
• 12:28
  frg_Away
  Previous status meeting notes updated and merged with the upcoming ones for today:
• 12:28
  frg_Away
  wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-07-30
• 12:28
  frg_Away
  wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-08-20
• 12:43
  tomman
  yay Orrible, even the Virtualbox forums are now blocked here in Venezuela
• 13:40
  WG9s
  Here for the meeting
• 13:48
  IanN
  meeting starts in 15 minutes - wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-08-20
• 13:59
  IanN
  meeting starts in 4 minutes - wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-08-20
• 14:02
  njsg
  hi .*
• 14:02
  frg_away
  Hi all
• 14:02
  WG9s
  I am here checking in agian
• 14:03
  IanN
  Meeting time - wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2023-08-20
• 14:03
  IanN
  hi njsg, frg_away and WG9s
• 14:04
  frg
  Seems my nick was a bit messed up from all the changes so needed to namually set it.
• 14:04
  IanN
  Who's taking minutes?
• 14:05
  frg
  me
• 14:05
  IanN
  thanks
• 14:05
  IanN
  Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
• 14:05
  frg
  late as usual probably sorry
• 14:05
  frg
  WG9s for building and support.
• 14:07
  IanN
  seconded
• 14:07
  IanN
  Action Items
• 14:08
  njsg
  thirded
• 14:09
  IanN
  we've had a reply back from Mozilla, need to sort out a virtual meeting with them now
• 14:10
  frg
  Need to sort out what we would still like to have I think.
• 14:11
  frg
  Otherwise bau from me.
• 14:11
  tomman
  late but here~
• 14:11
  tomman
  helloworld.exe
• 14:11
  WG9s
  I wonder if i shuld stop dong the c-c builds if they are irrelvant, but then we might still be doing backports
• 14:11
  frg
  hi again tomman
• 14:12
  IanN
  hi tomman
• 14:12
  frg
  WG9s I think it si still good to get them building. Especially for l10n.
• 14:13
  WG9s
  frOK I will keep them going until someone says no longer required
• 14:14
  IanN
  Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure
• 14:15
  frg
  IanN is the Rocky 8 and Windows server done? If the Rocky 8 works I would check in the incompatible with CentOS 7 changes.
• 14:15
  IanN
  We may look to switching to dedicated builders rather than Azure VM builders, we still need to work on the details/options/costs
• 14:16
  IanN
  frg: I believe ewong has been doing some test builds on the new boxes
• 14:16
  frg
  IanN if you have the addresses let me know.
• 14:16
  frg
  Yeah the azure builders are dead slow.
• 14:17
  frg
  But dedicated ones need to be secured a bit more.
• 14:25
  IanN
  Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree
• 14:26
  frg
  All building I think. Need to do some central checkins but was real busy in the last weeks.
• 14:26
  frg
  Trying to get SpiderMonkey updated for 2.53. Great progress locally but not yet fully stable with the latest regexp stuff.
• 14:31
  frg
  Not much else here from me for source. But updating masters in git and hg is still just a matter of time. patching becomes slow.
• 14:32
  tomman
  what's the next big Javascript shiny in the radar?
• 14:33
  » njsg imagines Oracle implementing a JVM on top of Javascript
• 14:34
  frg
  tomman bigint and dynamic modules. But I need to fix my local queue first.
• 14:35
  tomman
  dynamic modules are indeed getting a pest, thankfully the regex stuff seems solid on the .18b1 builds
• 14:36
  frg
  tomman yeah crahses pretty fast now in my queue so this needs to work.
• 14:36
  frg
  I either need to fix it or put more stuff in so that the original stuff applies clean(er).
• 14:37
  IanN
  Release Train
• 14:39
  frg
  2.53.17 is done. Wonder if we should do the next beta fast to get the regexp stuff out. Missing support now breaks tons of sites.
• 14:41
  IanN
  probably
• 14:43
  frg
  Let my try to fix my queue and if not we do it next week.
• 14:44
  IanN
  frg: yes, it would be nice to get your local queue in
• 14:47
  IanN
  Extensions Tracking
• 14:48
  frg
  The pref changes still cause fallout but nothing else I think. Fortunately an easy fixer.
• 14:50
  frg
  I plan to put Bug 1444119 in today but looking at this code I doubt it will caause even a mini ripple. If it does let me know.
• 14:51
  IanN
  yeah, we try to avoid breaking add-ons but sometimes need to land changes to allow for later patches to go in
• 14:53
  IanN
  2.Next, Feature List, Planning and Roundtable
• 14:53
  frg
  bau.
• 14:53
  IanN
  BAU for me
• 14:57
  IanN
  AOB
• 14:57
  WG9s
  I am still working on geting all patforms to work building with latest stable clang and linking with lld. just having to find time to do it have a plumbing issue at home and that seems to take precedence.
• 14:59
  frg
  yeah water or depending on the problem no water comes first :)
• 15:03
  IanN
  okay, I'll call this a meeting, thanks for you time today. Next meeting in 3 weeks times, same bat channel, same bat time
• 15:03
  tomman
  water leaks, memory leaks, both are a pain
• 15:03
  frg
  gc crashes too :)
• 15:03
  tomman
  at least my premises do not leak secrets
• 15:04
  tomman
  ...yet!
• 18:16
  tomman
  fosstodon.org/@gabrielesvelto/110915743701625636 basically this guy should have said "all OS are broken, this is why we're breaking support too" and saved the twitstorm
• 23:18
  IsambardPrince
  For security reasons, I think it would be wise not to depend on Azure.