libera #seamonkey

17 Aug 2023

Surfing the net has never been so suite | SeaMonkey Release:2.53.20 Beta:2.53.20b1| seamonkey-project.org/releases | This channel is logged at logbot.thereisonlyxul.org/seamonkey | SeaMonkey Nightly:2.53.21b1pre Archive archive.seamonkey-project.org/nightly | c-c (OPEN ) , c-253 (APPROVAL ONLY)

• 04:29
  IsambardPrince
  doh!
• 04:30
  IsambardPrince
  openSUSE has ChatZilla in its own RPM.
• 04:30
  IsambardPrince
  :/
• 04:30
  a-865
  is that a problem?
• 04:31
  IsambardPrince
  I ended up dumping the XPI from the tarball in the /usr/lib64/seamonkey path.
• 04:34
  a-865
  This right here is CZ running in Buc's 2.53.17 build on Leap 15.5, run from /usr/local/smcur/
• 04:35
  a-865
  none of openSUSE's Mozilla builds installed on this Leap
• 04:36
  IsambardPrince
  I suppose I could dump it into /opt.
• 04:40
  a-865
  Lotsa mozillas in /usr/local/ here:
• 04:40
  a-865
  > ls -ld /usr/local/* | egrep 'ff|sm|pm' | wc -l
• 04:40
  a-865
  27
• 04:40
  a-865
  ff=firefoxESR sm=seamonkey pm=palemoon
• 05:41
  GrannyGoose
  IsambardPrince would be a better choice to dump it into /Opt imo
• 06:02
  IsambardPrince
  I set SeaMonkey to top post by default in replies to email.
• 06:02
  IsambardPrince
  We lost that battle as soon as the top-posting Microsoft garbage became popular.
• 06:50
  njsg
  IsambardPrince: no, it's still the same, two different worlds. Perhaps with a few more people thinking that it's lost, but it's still quite common to see bottom-posting.
• 06:51
  njsg
  IsambardPrince: if bottom posting becomes a problem, you can expect the quoting indicator to become a problem sometimes too, with people who don't understand that's how quoted text is indicated in e-mail :-\
• 06:52
  njsg
  Either way, Microsoft *deserves* to lose this war bigly ever since they invented the quarantine with "adaptive ML" or what it is that silently decides what to silently drop.
• 07:11
  frg_Away
  IsambardPrince if they do not built it from SeaMonkey sources it will not work. Needs updates. Basically dead upstream. l10n might also be a problem. The one in our sources is SeaMonkey only..
• 07:12
  IsambardPrince
  Wait. I lost my messages.
• 07:12
  IsambardPrince
  What won't work?
• 07:13
  njsg
  chatzilla from separate rpm
• 07:17
  IsambardPrince
  I'm using it now.
• 07:17
  IsambardPrince
  It says chatzilla 0.17
• 07:18
  frg_Away
  lsambardPrince well then it is the internal ones. Makes no sense to bundle it seperately. Only causes grief if you don't update during SeaMonkey update.
• 07:19
  IsambardPrince
  The XPI matches the one from the tarball.
• 07:24
  frg_Away
  Probably rpm dependencies set but still nothing I would do.
• 09:04
  IsambardPrince
  I wonder, why are WebComponents still off?