know what there is very little of except for xpcom bindings in 1.8? python.. BUT there is a fuck ton of ancient perl

i dunno if that is better or worse lol

no.. silly of me.. perl is ALWAYS worse..

I feel about perl as our old long lost friend the_bot felt about C++

ancient Perl? Quick, someone call JWZ! :D

man i love jwz least 2000s jwz.. i figure by now he lost his mind like the rest but i can fondly remember reading those old mozilla html pages some I reference to this day.. namely fear.html

and now he doesn't want to touch a Mozilla product at all :/

to be fair.. march 19th 2022 i said the same damn thing

i never want to ever work with a mozilla codebase or mozilla technology again

i said that

and it lasted about 14 hours until pseudo-anon convinced me not to completely give up

someone has to resist the New IE, er, Google monopoly... and of course the answer is _not_ "Safari"

well that someone isn't me not with a web client .. HOWEVER remember both netscape technology and mozilla technology is NOT strictly The OpenWeb(tm) nor the World Wide Web of old.. it is more than that

as far as the html engine wars? we lost the moment the pandemic started

I thought we lost the moment Microsoft gave up with IE and switched to Chredge...

as a collection of basically mozilla rejects who can barely speak with one another let alone work together our barely acceptable ability to overcome that to a degree was the ONLY thing keeping us in the war .. the pandemic socially and economically and continued politically fucking everyone leaving a bunch of outcast pissed off mozfreaks unable to stand the old normal let alone the intended new normal.. is it any surprise that

the last of us are continuing to fall and the only ones left MUST either be taken out or end up victorious

but as they say.. you need to be an agile programmer.. well I lost over a hundred pounds of angry fat.. surely I am more agile than ever!

HOWEVER I think servo and webkit are gonna rise to take chromium down.. I just dunno which way microsoft will go

since engine jumping for them is now an established practice they could jump to webkit, or servo, or stick with chrome for a defacto duopoly

it will be interesting to see but whatever browser war started with chrome and the iphone .. we lost that war.. ALL of us did..

and we lost it in 2020

but the browser war is a never ending war so a new front will open up and should we survive long enough we may do better in the next one due to heat up in the next 3-5 years

2-4 really

My plan is simple: the day Mozilla dies for good (and by extension, forks like ours), that's the day I'm qutting computers forever

and yes, I'm dead serious on that. It helps that I already avoid like 95% of the "modern Internet" (read: social networks and Chromeisms)

i am working on a workaround for that because I am roughly in the same boat but for more functional reasons than most

also the /CAPTAIN/ needs to cut down on the bullshit-but-almost-certainly-true prediction shit.. it is depressing.

Like I said, I am not JUST trying to keep uxp .. functioning as the potentially re-dubbed Grandiose Runtime Environment (haven't decided yet), I am unlocking the secrets to core NETSCAPE technology including xpfe, I am gonna fork a very stripped down trinity desktop core and evolve it up to where it needs to be.. Not gonna do a k desktop environment but I am gonna do a BinOC Desktop Environment and Software Collection likely overlayed into a

setup of otherwise normal system.. But chosen and configured and tested to be a good traditional but not stuck in the past series of older environment variations on the desktop metaphore.. in a way these free-form plasmaoid bastards can't

a fettered and bound Tobin thinks of a navigator-only.. Tobin Unbound will do a pseudo-distro

I am going back to a comm setup

"Sorry, ReplayWeb.page won't work in this browser as Service Workers are not supported."

the only Service Workers I know here are the good-for-nothing ones working for the state utilities :D

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