18:20:00 cool http://windowsupdaterestored.com/ 18:20:37 Fun blast from the past. 18:21:00 frg_away: and yet it refuses to work on my Win98SE/Me shoebox :D 18:21:16 (maybe it's because of the locale missing files, or maybe due to IE6) 18:21:26 I should really create an account at MSFN one of these days 18:22:40 For the very few things I still need 98se (old eprom burner) I have a fully patched backup. But still cool. 18:23:08 and as stated fully patched is 10 to 20 years back :) 18:23:51 i am banned on msfn 18:23:59 for obvious reasons 18:24:19 too much constructive feedback :D 18:37:01 reminder to myself: get more spare PATA laptop HDDs and install Me on the T40 18:37:50 at least that one has an appropriate vintage GPU (Radeon 7500) and not the vomit on my PCChips mobo from the dumpster (ugh SiS 630 EW) 18:40:50 tomman I picked the T42 with 9600 The 7500 drivers are a bit old but with ME it doesn't matter much probably. 18:41:10 SIS or VIA urgkkk... 18:41:19 ATi 9x support maxed out at 9000 series 18:41:47 certainly none of the PCIe GPUs ever had 9x drivers (even those early R300-based, i.e. anything from the early X series) 18:41:56 T42 is still covered 18:42:04 yes, SiS was dog vomit in 2001, and it's still dog vomit in 2023 18:42:17 basically those made glorified typewriters, and that's it 18:42:37 sadly my SECOND PC (and the one where I actually met fate with Mozilla Suite) was... ugh, a M755 with a Celery 700 18:42:49 including the infamous 630 chipset of doom 18:43:13 memory performance is awful, GPU performance is "hope you like Solitaire, and maybe Doom" 18:44:23 I'm still looking where they did hide their supposed hardware MPEG-2 decoding features, because while every datasheet you're going to find on the 630 says "hardware MPEG-2 decoding", no driver publicly available ever supported it 18:44:56 (and watching DVDs on those things led to slideshows unless you were using high end Coppermine PIIIs) 18:46:38 tomman if you ever need it: https://thinkpads.com/support/Thinkpad-Drivers/download.lenovo.com/lenovo/content/ddfm/T42.html 18:47:36 frg_away: the only feature I would lose on mine is the WLAN: the original Intel 2200 card was shot, so I used the no-1802 tool to unlock the mPCI slot and shove in some Atheros 802.11n love 18:47:48 ...and while Atheros DID made 9x drivers for those, they never released them 18:48:02 (or at least that's what I can interpret from their INF files) 18:48:08 tzomman I put a 2915 in. best card for these. 18:48:25 none of my routers support g anymore 18:48:29 this house is n-only zone 19:37:37 vulnerability resides in WebKit, which is used by Apple, Mozilla and Google in iOS 19:37:39 https://www.neowin.net/news/apple-releases-urgent-zero-day-patches-for-ios-ipados-and-macos/ 19:37:41 "WebKit"... Mozilla, i don't understand that part? 19:42:15 "cool" (windowsupdaterestored.com) looks very suspect to me. 19:46:29 Mozilla blogs about copypasting crap out of Webkit and Chrome. 19:46:47 I guess you can layoff half the Gecko developers and raise the CEO pay again. 19:47:06 Half the remaining employees can stay on to make Firefox unbearable and full of spyware. 19:48:23 oh, & https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/quarantined-domains 19:50:00 therube as far as I know all browsers need to use webkit on iOS and iPadOS. Apple was sued and needs to discontinue this but not there yet. 19:50:17 as my tagline on mozillazine says, "Fire 750, bring back 250" 19:51:02 oh. (i know nothing of Mac or "phones") 19:57:21 speaking of "fired", this was a bit interesting, https://www.businessinsider.com/tech-industry-fake-work-problem-bad-managers-bosses-layoffs-jobs-2023-7 19:57:44 therube too late I suspect. Not much left of Gecko. 20:04:08 don't worry, when it all collapses seek me out.. we will code xpfe 20:04:25 i should have a decent start 20:04:52 does this make me a doomsday coder? 20:05:00 LOL 20:05:00 I like it. 20:55:20 tomman: what about 2000 or XP drivers? are GPU drivers for these different so that they don't work on 98/Me? 20:56:04 njsg: the video driver architecture is too different 20:56:19 you can't use WDDM video drivers on 9x 20:56:37 tomman: I don't think you want to use intel 2200 wireless, unless I'm thinking of a different card. 20:56:49 but you may use WDDM drivers (provided they don't require any feature from newer Windows NT versions) for devices other than video cards 20:57:19 the 2200 on my T40 was dying: it would connect to an AP, but drop the connection after some minutes 20:57:29 turns out those cards tended to die like that, from what I've researched 20:58:41 from my experience, they didn't work so well normally either, I think at least disabling power management was a must 20:59:09 at least if this is "Intel Pro Wireless", what I'm thinking of is ipw2200 20:59:20 Intel's attempt at competing with Broadcom 20:59:45 that one indeed 21:00:49 looks like Intel wouldn't have reliable WLAN cards until... what, 3945ABG? 21:03:19 I like the 6300 most. But with older Thinkpads with or without whitelist bios they tend to hang the system hard with 10 or higher. 3945 and up.