I've never considered using Wayland, I'd have to check how well it does in certain features X11 has

I think PRIMARY ended up being implemented in wayland at some point?

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36302002 only Hackernews would have STRONG opinions in favor of custom CSS scrollbars

completely negating the concerns of the OP article (which gives perfectly valid reasons to NOT SCREW UP WITH NATIVE WIDGETS

But hey, "innovation" and "branding" are very strong beliefs for those webcraps

MercadoLibre has some of those custom scrollbars that are completely unusable here

so is the issue here a conlict between trying make an app look like most apps on the OS or make the looka and feel be the same across platforms? You obvioulsy cannot do both

Mozilla started with the same look and feel on all platforms. that is why there is still a spfe directory in the tree that stood for Cross-platform front end

then wtiched to using the os widgets and icons etc.

I do remember when good ol' IE5 allowed to recolor scrollbars

of course it was a Microsoftism, and only tacky websites embraced it

(some color combos were particularly atrocious, a punch to the liver in terms of accesiblity)

sorry meant to say xpfe not spfe

gbatemp.net/attachments/img_1128-gif.377484 is it me, or this "not really a GIF" blinks like mad?

it flickers madly on SM here, to the point of requiring a photosensitive epilepsy warning

tomman: shows ok for me, but... it's a GIF, so maybe that's why I don't see blinking

actually it is NOT a GIF but a mis-named webp

it animates OK in FF102ESR, but flickers madly on SM .17b1

I do remember having problems with other WebP animations here in the past (like the adbanners on Anime News Network)

I suspect the server is sending different content, I think I'm getting a gif

tomman: for some resaon this reminds me of back in the day when netscpe first started adding new attributes like blink that mozaic and ie did not support and so ignored to create a webpage that looked great with mosaic and ie but could not be read using netscape.

was designed as a joke.

njsg: weird indeed

if I pull the GIF with wget, I get indeed a GIF

> index.html: GIF image data, version 89a, 300 x 336

but using netscape one of the things that happend was it blinked at a rate that mde in unreadable

tomman: yeah, I think the server might be serving things differently

a one megabyte GIF

tomman: if you open it in a new tab do you still get the webp?

OK, I force-refreshed it, and now I'm getting a flicker-free GIF

hm, did you open it originally from another page?

but FF102ESR still keeps receiving a webp

This time I just pasted the link on a new tab

could always be the referer

tomman it is an animated gif. Looks ok here

For webp some bugs did not go in yet. the server might pick gif because of it because SeaMonkey does not advertize webp support.

frg_Away: it's odd since sometimes I get webp and sometimes I get GIF

tomman same url?

same URL indeed

Hmmm, referer could play a role

go here: gbatemp.net - find the "Video Game Memes and Fun Pics" sidebox, locate the image (currently it's the 2nd at second row)

if you call the raw URL, you get a GIF

if gbatemp.net is the referer, you get a flickering WebM

(just checked on a private window)

FF102ESR gets a webp no matter what I do

SeaMonkey is dicey, behavior referer depending

wget ALWAYS gets a GIF, no matter which referer!

tomman: okay, I see the flickering with the image loaded inline

can be seen in the page info dialog media tab too

curiously, there's another one served as webp, same thing different text and different size, which does not have the same issue

... it's visible even in the developer tools network tab thumbnail

hm

the request has "accept: image/webp */*"

That rings a faint, distant bell. Have we ever discussed something like that before here?

yay, another crash~

(had forgotten to relaunch cZ because I was debugging a crash on something else

tomman with the beta?

yep

hmm not sure why. I have seen the last crash two months ago but using NoScript and uBlock

I have none of those

the crashes happen out of the blue

sometimes I get them during regular browsing, and sometimes I go to bed just to wake up 8 hours later to figure out that the browser had crashed at 4 AM :D

probably garbage collection. ad stuff is mostly toxic js and crap these days and the gc might choke on something. I would not even try to browse without an ad blocker these days.

I block ads over DNS, and avoid heavy junk

basically 90% of my web browsing these days is Danbooru and some Hackernews...