12:24:52 Hello! Just wanted to report that I have successfully compiled the latest 2.53.18 beta 1 pre with python 3.11.3, clang 15.0.7, and rust 1.70.0 on Arch Linux. Many thanks for your hard work regarding the python 3 compatibility! 12:26:24 teruna great. The current 2.53.18 level is 99.9% the upcoming beta so you should have no problems with this too. 19:46:44 https://www.addlink.com.tw/ssd-s20 I'm shopping for a SSD, but it seems there now are SSDs that require Google Chrome 19:47:15 (CustomElements consumer because why yes, we now need those to sell noname SSDs) 19:48:06 ...WTF, these people use Wix 21:14:19 tomman if sata go with the Ultra 3D, WD Blue or 870 EVO. Crucial played with the ram cache lately a bit too much so I no longer recommend the MX500 21:14:35 frg_Away: sadly I'm a _tight_ budget 21:14:57 and when I say _tight_ I mean "tighter than me wearing size 32 jeans" :D 21:15:12 also buying in Venezuela means everything costs 2X :/ 21:15:36 Anyway, I'm between the PNY CS900, the Teamgroup Vulcan Z, and POSSIBLY that Addlink S20 21:16:08 the first two are DRAMless, but the Vulcan Z has a marginally better controller and more SLC cache, while the CS900 has the infamous Phison S10 controller 21:16:36 as for the Addlink... I can't even find LEGIT reviews on it, but it has DRAM... oh wait, there is the S20M which also plays the DRAM games :P 21:16:43 At least here prices came so much down than it does not matter. If the SSD does not have a good cachae you are in some cases better off with a standard HDD. And if QLC you are better off :) 21:16:45 --Phison s11 21:17:18 even a 12 year old rust spinner? 21:17:32 this 750GB Hitachi didn't won any contests even back when it was new 21:18:27 anyway, those are $30 SSDs being sold here as $60 if you carefully look online, or $100+ if you wanna get ripped off at Honest Ahmed's Appliances And Computerizers 21:18:46 tomman all depends on your usage and the firmware. There are some crappy ssds out in the wild. 21:19:11 the S11 woes were exactly due to terribad firmware 21:19:24 but from what I've read, all those reports are from 2019 at newest 21:20:12 tomman they are all playing the nvdm game lately. Not much new in sata land. 21:20:41 my usage patterns are basically: normal web browsing, very light gaming, from time to time compile something from source or toy with a VM 21:21:09 also, this laptop is always on 24/7 (sans blackouts) 21:21:41 wish I could afford NVMe-capable hardware 21:22:10 tomman make sure you get at least TLC. The no names have terrible to non existent specs. 21:22:24 those two I mentioned thankfully have TLC 21:22:41 https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/pny-cs900-1-tb.d667 21:22:43 https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-z-1-tb.d1147 21:23:18 SUPPOSEDLY the Addlink is Kioxia TLC + has DRAM 21:23:40 but as you can see, their website not only is content-free, it also relies on Chromeisms for its content-free content :D 21:24:27 the BX500 was a contender for 5 minutes until I learned it's all QLC, and benchmarks are absolute bottom-of-the-barrel (and it's not cheap anyway) 21:24:41 tomman desktop is a $20 card here. Price is even cheaper than SATA for the 970 EVO Plus lately. It is GPT so not as a boot drive here. Legacy boot only for me. VM perfoamcne is not much different form the SATA drives when I compile. 21:26:14 BX500 is garbage. Got a few MX500 and the were fine but seems they changed the configuration with the latest batches and cut the dram by 75%. 21:30:15 Oh, to make things more confusing: the Addlink S20 is a Phison S10 + DRAM, but you will not find reviews for it (except a few listings as a "Mid-tier" drive from some random forums including LTT). But Addlink also has released the S20M, built over a crappier Maxiotek DRAMless controller! 21:31:43 https://old.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/comments/gkbiei/addlink_intros_s20m_sata_25inch_ssd_series/ 21:31:47 ...disqualified then