15:47:24 frg_Away: I have a bunch of G400s shelved, and a G550 still installed in my newest AGP motherboard (Abit). Motherboards older than AGP here mostly have ET6x00 Tseng. 16:19:11 heading home 17:58:30 OK, this is getting ridiculous 17:58:31 I've got three crashes out of the blue today 17:58:52 is there any way I can hook up GDB or something to at least have a idea of what's going kablooey' 17:58:54 ? 18:00:05 either that or read the crashdumps that are getting sent to Mozilla 18:05:12 https://www.ghacks.net/2023/05/30/mozilla-confirms-firefoxs-end-of-support-for-windows-7-8-and-8-1-systems/ 18:05:20 google see, google do 18:14:53 was going to say, i haven't had a crash in ages, but looking, i see i had a number of consecutive crashes back on 4-7-23 18:15:30 can't say i recall having any issues though? it might have been in a test profile that i created - where i was expecting a crash, so paid it no mind? 18:16:23 https://crash-reports-test.seamonkey-project.org/report/index/bp-3a4c9283-49f5-4080-82d4-e3f9b0230530 18:26:04 https://crash-reports-test.seamonkey-project.org/report/index/bp-c2579447-c8df-4e81-a24f-99a550230530 well, here is the latest one from me 18:26:11 not much info there :/ 19:29:42 Both Intel gfx. tomman are you rnning the latest drivers on the HD4000? 19:30:27 Package is win64_15.33.53.5161.zip 19:30:49 another crash 19:32:37 the computer was sitting alone, with a couple dozen browser tabs on a single window, and a few chatrooms on two networks 19:32:47 this is the 4th crash today 19:33:18 https://crash-reports-test.seamonkey-project.org/report/index/bp-436c8f5b-61de-4225-9990-50fe10230524 19:38:52 tomman anything gfx or media related on the site? 19:39:00 not really 19:40:33 but sometimes I've had one tab with videos (sites like https://onemileatatime.com/ or JWZ's blogposts) 19:40:35 but that's it 19:50:28 hi 19:53:34 hi Harzilein 19:53:53 Hi Harzilein 20:19:29 tomman anything displayed if you start from a console and crash then? 20:20:03 frg_Away: will try that next time 20:20:13 which reminds me, will try that now since I need to reboot this thing for updates~ 20:20:15 brb~ 20:20:40 My W530 Thinki with Windows 7 x64 is pretty stable. Turned off wasm and enabled webcomponents. No palefill. But NoScript and uBlock both. 20:28:03 frg_Away: I'm now running it from a console 20:28:13 hope I can catch something of interest this time 20:36:46 tomman well "as Microsoft is not releasing security updates for the older versions of Windows anymore." is not exactly true. The 7 esu hack still works pretty well and the new on for 8.1 too for now if I can believe my digital life.. At least 8.1 might get the server 2012 r2 esu stuff tfor a few years. Nothing I would recommend for a company to rely on or even use but for a hobbyist who... 20:36:47 ...cares. Happy with Server 2019 so still covered. 20:37:23 IIRC the ESU for W7 ends in a few weeks 20:37:29 Oh, another thing I've just noticed 20:37:40 sometimes after a crash, my list of search providers "resets" 20:38:01 I lose Wikipedia, but Yahoo (which I've never used nor intend to use) comes back 20:38:44 however, a few other search engines I've added myself years ago (AniDB, MercadoLibre Venezuela) DO survive 20:39:23 basically it resets partially: I lose English Wikipedia and instead Yahoo comes back 20:42:06 tomman esu for 7 has already ended . Now picks the embedded stuff and Server 2008 R2. I belive good till early 2024 and then it ends.